2022-06-09 Meeting notes
Date
Attendees
Aaron Trehub, Anya, Alexis Manheim, Brooks Travis, Dung-Lan Chen, Gang Zhou, Heather McMillan, Ian Walls, Jana Freytag, Marc Johnson, Martina Schildt, Martina Tumulla, Owen Stephens, Paul Moeller, Peter Murray, Rachel Fadlon, Sharon Wiles-Young, Stephanie Buck, twliuĀ
Discussion items
Time | Item | Who | Notes |
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5 min | Announcements | Georgetown College and Holy Family College are now live on FOLIO. | |
45 min | SIG Conveners Updates | See heading below. | |
10 min | WOLFcon Planning Committee Updates | Martina gave an update on the conference planning (slides). |
SIG Convener Updates
Metadata Management (Felix Hemme, Raegan Wiechert)
Consortia (Noah Brubaker)
No update
Accessibility ā dormant at this time
SysOps (Ingolf Kuss) - not available today
SysOps SIG is engaging in the discussion about Technical Pain Points to provide feedback to the Technical Council. We have found that the needs of SysOps are different from those of DevOps and the dev teams. Our needs focus on installation procedures and operational concerns. Among the areas with the most urgent need for improvement are those:
- Operational Documentation
- This affects hosting providers and self-hosted sites, fresh installations and upgrades as well.
- FOLIO Basic Tenant Installation
- Currently, there are too many microservices (60+) in a basic installation.
- Suggestions:
- Reduce the scope of a FOLIO minimal installation
- Simplify the complex dependency graph
- Enforce domain boundaries that define an App; reduce dependencies
- Allow for a simpler addition of Apps to running system
- Observability (Logging)
- RMB modules have a logging convention, but not others.
- Suggestions:
- Use a very small number of well documented logging patterns, suitable for aggregation
- Provide consistent, well-documented health and readiness endpoints
- Release Upgrades
- Required downtime for re-indexing is high; This leads to slow migrations.
- Preserving local customizations to reference data remains an issue
- Okapi bootstrapping
- Need improvement for registering modules with Okapi discovery, e.g. a mechanism to integrate with a native orchestration platform service discovery.
- Issues in setting up Okapi and setting up tenants.
Data Migration Subgroup
- Discussion about Optimistic Locking and the inventory storage batch synchronous Upsert method. Some say it has been designed like this, some say itās a bug: - MODINVSTOR-910Getting issue details... STATUS . Also an issue with HRIDs arose in the same endpoint:Ā - MODINVSTOR-923Getting issue details... STATUS
- Planned Sessions at WolfCon:
- FOLIO Data Migration: Lessons Learned
- FOLIO Data Migration Workshop
- Inventory data migration crash course (by Theodor Tolstoy)
- Data Integration in FOLIO
- FOLIO Workflow Automation with Airflow (Jeremy Nelson)
Implementers (Ian Walls)
- Gathering participants for WolfCon sessions
- Mutual support and aid
Support (Anya Arnold and Debra Howell)
Currently all P1 have been close which means they are in Hot Fix 1 of lotus. ( way to go POs and Dev teams)Ā
P2 - 19
P3 -17Ā
P4 - 3
The current average number of days that it takes from open to close is about 60 days.Ā
Privacy (Carsten Schwill and Adam Chandler)
- The SIG is working through the changes to the personal data disclosure document for FOLIO modules. The next step is to approach development teams about creating or updating the PDD document.
- The Privacy SIG is concerned about the reliance on Google Chrome as the only āsupported browserā for the FOLIO project.Ā Some users choose not to use Chrome for privacy reasons, and it is healthy for the project to not be locked into only one browser.Ā As far as members of the Privacy SIG know, Firefox works equally well with FOLIO.Ā (Several SIG members use Firefox, but none interact with FOLIO on a daily basis other than for troubleshooting.)Ā Generally, the SIG supports any efforts to improve cross-platform compatibility but understands the competing priorities on the roadmap.Ā How is this seen by other PC members?
- How would product owners prioritize a bug report that identified a problem with Firefox but not Chrome?
- What does it mean to say we support a browser? How do we prioritize cross-browser issues for fixing?
- Noting that this is a topic for product council, we can put it on the backlog of topics to be discussed and documented.
Public Library (Adam Murray)
User Management (Maura Byrne)
- We discussed several active tickets over the past month.
- The patron PIN has been stored in the patron password field, and replaces whatever password was there.Ā SIP2 is directed to look in the patron password field for the patron PIN, which causes trouble for libraries where patrons need both a password and a PIN.
- The patron PIN has been written into the back end (/patron-pin and /patron-pin/validate), and is part of a pull request.
- Bulk user delete is part of the Bulk Edit app, not the Users app.
- We liked the workflow that we saw.
- We discussed hard delete vs. soft delete
- Hard - deleted immediately
- Soft -Ā marked deleted, then purged with a nightly process.
- Regardless of hard vs. soft, does there have to be a stub record for the user?
- We discussed what we wanted to see in an āAre you sure?ā modal.
- Magda will come back with an update next week.
App Interaction (Martina Schildt)
- One meeting due to public holidays and German library congress
- Controlled Digital Lending (CDL) subgroup presented on controlled digital lending process and workflows
- this came up especially due to covid and its circumstances
- There are digital representations of a physical book
- Started discussing the question what the best way is to model CDL in FOLIO, especially InventoryĀ
- User cannot check out both: two items where only one can be available at a time
- Current thinking: Storage platform for CDL will most likely live outside FOLIO
- FOLIO should be able to tie to CDL item
- AI will stay in touch with CDL subgroup
- Next meeting on June 15: Cross-app implementers topics - mostly UX/UI related - guests are welcome
Acquisitions (Dung-Lan Chen)
- Topics that we have discussed extensively in recent ACQ SIG meetings are -
- The need for a fiscal year rollover preview
- Use cases for allowing user to export pieces from receiving
- Use cases for Create invoice automatically from purchase order
- Discuss Process invoice against previous fiscal years
- Plus a new topic āDiscuss Allow user to generate requests from Order lineā started 6/7
- Acquisitions Video Working Group met once in May - had preliminary discussions regarding goals and content guidelines, etc. One of the working group members brought up a question in the slack channel for the group if creative commons licenses should be pursued for videos created under the guidelines proposed by the working group.Ā It was recommended as yes.Ā Based on the comments/discussions in the first meeting, Dennis B. reached out to a few more folks to see if theyād be willing to help out with the endeavor before scheduling the second meetingĀ
ERM (Martina Tumulla & Martina Schildt)
- One meeting due to public holidays and German library congress
- Updates on development progress and latest functionalities
Open Access (Bjƶrn Muschall) - not available today
Resource Access (Jana Freytag)
- Fee/Fine:
- Notices:
- The pros and cons of logic branching and advanced conditioning in notice and slip templates
- Multiple fee/fine charges or actions (pay, waive, transfer, error or refund) on a single notice for a patron
Reporting (Angela Zoss) - Wonāt be attending (at a conference)
- The SIG has a draft statement of scope; after that is finalized, weāll be working on a roadmap and a mission statement
- Cornell SIG members recently demonstrated using Tableau, DBeaver Enterprise, Confluence, and Box to deliver dashboards and Excel sheets to other staff who need data from the LDP but arenāt comfortable querying LDP directly (notes from May 9, notes from May 19)
- The SIG had a discussion recently about changes to the PO lines data model. The addition of a direct linkage to holdings is a welcome addition, but existing PO line records did not get processed automatically to retroactively add that linkage, so institutions are going to have to be working on that separately to clean up their data. We hope to both update FOLIO Analytics queries to add the newly available field and also build a few helper queries that could be used to try to clean up the records that donāt have this link to holdings.
- Reporting documentation is continuing in conjunction with Documentation Working Group. Kiwi docs include two new reporting pages: ldpmarc and LDP App.
- Weāve had additional discussions around how to gather and prioritize new report requests from FOLIO community members (ongoing)
Chat Log
00:10:39 Brooks Travis: CouldnĆ¢ā¬ā¢t unmute 00:13:20 Owen Stephens: I think we need to be careful what we mean by both "supported" and Ć¢ā¬Åchrome" in this context 00:14:22 Owen Stephens: This is a recent discussion about this issue https://folio-project.slack.com/archives/C2BHMHCFJ/p1653035049856799 00:17:08 Jana Freytag | VZG: Brooks, we can hear you! 00:17:54 Peter Murray: We could hear you, Brooks, and I've muted you manually. 00:19:03 Brooks Travis: Sorry, folks. Having audio device issues. 00:20:59 Owen Stephens: Thanks Sharon 00:21:19 Ian Walls: I would be interested to know if there are any institutions for which using Chrome is a non-starter. 00:28:22 Heather McMillan: We'll be testing FY rollover in Juniper soon 00:28:26 Heather McMillan: TAMU 00:34:07 Marc Johnson: Yay, IĆ¢ā¬ā¢m so glad the documentation has caught up with the flower releases 00:35:00 Anya: Georgetown College and Holy Family went live yesterday 00:35:19 Peter Murray: Thanks, Anya...I'll add that to the notes. 00:35:50 Owen Stephens: Thanks Ian - I agree it needs to be part of the continuous updating process 00:49:41 Ian Walls: this all sounds wonderful, thank you to everyone who is working to make this a reality! 00:51:01 Martina Schildt | VZG: Link to slides: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1b0xxn67VJSf_JzQSjUnLNNg5U1fNdYIT/edit#slide=id.p5