2022-02-24 Resource Access Meeting Notes

2022-02-24 Resource Access Meeting Notes

 

Date

Feb 24, 2022

 

Zoom

https://zoom.us/j/337279319 (pw: folio-lsp)

Attendees

@Thomas Trutt 

@(OLD ACCOUNT) Erin Nettifee 

@Brooks Travis 

@Martina Tumulla 

@Sharon Wiles-Young 

@julie.bickle 

@Dwayne Swigert 

@Christine Tobias 

@Andy Horbal 

@David Bottorff 

@Laszlo Jakusovszky 

@Natalia Umaña 

@Mark Canney 

@Cornelia Awenius 

@Nicole Daly 

@Erin Weller 

@Laurence Mini 

@Cheryl Malmborg 

@Pamela Pfeiffer 

@Karen White 

@Robert Scheier 

@Heather Macfarlane 

@Kimie Kester 

@Joanne Leary 

@Molly Driscoll 

@mey 

@tpaige@umass.edu 

@Kara Hart 

@Jana Freytag 

Discussion Items

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2min

Administrivia

@Jana Freytag

PC-Update:

  • New recording storage

    • recordings.openlibraryfoundation.org

    • For how long do we want to keep the meetings?

    • Keep the Recordings longer and make special recordings (like the presentation on permissions better available)

    • Jana will set up a page in our wiki space to provide better access to our recordings and make them searchable

Note taker: @Jana Freytag

 

 

30Min

Making service points inactive

@(OLD ACCOUNT) Erin Nettifee 

Discuss https://folio-org.atlassian.net/browse/UXPROD-1562 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Meeting Notes

 

  1. Making service points inactive

    1. Look at what SP are

    2. Deletion via UI Call

    3. Q: Under what scenarios would you imagine deactivating a service point, and then reactivating it in the future?

      1. extremes: closed Building, Staffing issues,

      2. Andy in Chat: We have one inactive service point right now which we might reactivate in the future. (space issues in the sp)

      3. Christine in Chat: When we close/retire a branch location. Or if temporarily close a branch library/service point due to pandemic protocols. Or God forbid, a disaster occurs and the library is no longer open (i.e., fire, flood, etc.)

      4. Thomas in Chat: suspension of services; for use contactless pickup

      5. Brooks in Chat: “Virtual” service points, as well.

      6. Discovery layer: turning off the Pick up location (permanently or temporarly)

      7. for staff to select it as a preferred pick up 

    4. Scenarios: Permission for deactivating a sp but nothing else?

      1. protect the crud permission but not

      2. Thomas: i kind of like the action menu idea better, but activate/deactivate instead of delete

    5. Assigned to an Active Location:

      1. Thomas, David, Christine,  in Chat: Option 1

      2. Thomas in Chat: could we do option one but add a dialog asking what service point the locations should be change to..??

        1. context: catalogouging work flows

    6. pickupLocation = yes?

      1. Renovation: What if staff are working in the space?

      2. How much time would you have to know that a sp would be deactivated

      3. Option1: becomes nicer including bulk edit of requests

      4. Option2: would allow to stop requests comming in

      5. For stopping request comming in by switching pickup location:

      6. result: Option 2 would be preferred

    7. Associated to a user as apreferred pickup location

      1. Option 3(proposed by Brooks): On this next one, I would allow without warning, and just have Requests and any patron-facing interfaces ignore the preference if the location is inactive

    8. Associates as a pickup location to a request

      1. Brooks in Chat: I think it has to be #2 Same as turning off pickupLocation=Yes

      2. What about closed request? let them stay

      3. Brooks in Chat: Again, it would be great if we could bulk update the requests via the UI at that point

    9. Associated to a FOLIO staff user record

      1. Option 2:

      2. Andy Horbal in Chat:  Have we talked about what, if anything, happens to the name of the service point when it is inactivated?

      3. Brooks Travis in Chat: Warn but allow, and update the front-end to ignore those SPs in service point assignment/selection.

      4. Andy in Chat: Under our improvised solution, the service point appears as INACTIVE Service Point A on the User record, which actually works pretty well.

    10. Anything else?:

      1. Joanne: What happens to fee/fines logic ex.: what happens to a book if the location associated with a fee/fine owner is deactivated?

      2. Cheryl: Calendar is also associated with location - What happens with this connection?

      3. Brooks in Chat: I would argue for updating the circulation back-ends to deny transactions from inactive service points

      4. Brooks in Chat: All future due dates are calculated based on the originating service point calendar - Renewals, recalls, etc.

  2. Unable to Place Recalls via Instance Hold Endpoint (/circulation/requests/instances) When Item is Checked out with a Fixed Due Date Schedule -- CIRC-1449

    1. Please be aware of this and that it is a

    2. Brooks: My biggest question to the group is how widespread do we think the use of fixed due date schedules is where the institution also allows patron-initiated recalls.

    3. Regarding: rolling loan periods with a fixed due date schedules

    4. How critical is it?

      1. Andrea: Would affect Duke but implementing the invisible Permissions is acceptable

      2. Others agree - Andy in Chat summarized it: it's never an IDEAL solution, but so far I think it has always turned out to be one that gets the job done.