2024-11-21 Product Council Agenda & Meeting Notes

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 Date

Nov 21, 2024

 Participants

  • @Alexis Manheim@Kristin Martin @Charlotte Whitt @Peter Murray @Jeremy Huff @Brooks Travis @Gang Zhou @Kajsa Bäckius @Martina Schildt @Martin Scholz @Anja Kakau @Martina Tumulla @Caitlin Stewart @Thomas Trutt @Jana Freytag @Tara Barnett @Lisa McColl Lucy (Galileo) @Andreas Mace @Jennifer Eustis @Jenn Colt

  • Note taker: @Martina Schildt

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5 min

Announcements

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Reminder: Prioritization rollout to SIGs not at Nov 7th meeting

Reminder: we will not be meeting next week due to Thanksgiving

50 min

Presentation on new reading room circulation functionality 


@Thomas Trutt @Andreas Mace
@Kajsa Bäckius

UXPROD-1835

Link to slides

Purpose:

The purpose of this feature is to create a modified workflow that enables patrons to use certain items within the library. These items are typically stored in closed stacks or are restricted in the Integrated Library System (ILS). Patrons can request these items, which are then delivered to a designated staff area for in-house use.

Functionality is not tied to reading rooms; it is separate functionality, it is about circulation in reading rooms

  • it is an extension of the current Requests app

  • There will be changes in settings UI (please see slides)

  • New tokens will be added

  • New request status will be added “Open - checked out to patron”

  • there will be 2 new filters in Requests app

  • in Check-in app a drop-down will be added which sets the check-in function

  • templates: https://folio-org.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/RA/pages/414056522

  • comment in chat by Brooks: I really wish I could have been in the meeting where this was discussed with RA SIG 🙁. I feel like there is an alternative approach that would dovetail very nicely with an “alternative loans” workflow. I’ve seen some items with a LOT of notes

    • Brooks and Thomas will discuss this after the PC meeting

    • Charlotte in chat: The feature you talk about Brooks is that: UXPROD-4398. Not scheduled, and XXL < 30 Days work? > yes

  • Jeremy: are there other than reading room that would fit the same pattern?

  • Brooks: had the same in mind; we could utilize the loan process to fulfill the requirement; the presented functionality would be a separate workflow and that could be avoided

  • Thomas: with the proposed functionality workflows are simplified because existing workflows do not need to change; statistics work differently (better) with proposed functionality

  • Andreas: presented workflow tries to grant flexibility and a lot of use

  • Alexis: we need to decide how we name the functionality to avoid potential for confusion

  • Thomas will go back to the working group and discuss options

  • Name of reading room access app should be changed as well out of the same reasons (e.g. room access)

  • Brooks in chat: I really think this should be more tightly integrated into the existing circulation apps
    Rather than a standalone UI experience

  • Andreas: The idea is to use the existing circle apps. Check-out, requests and check-in. But perhaps you mean something else?

  • Thomas: Im not sure what you mean brooks.. It is using the current ui, just extending them.

  • Brooks: Ok. I thought you were proposing a new app

  • Thomas: Oh no.. the opposite.. extending the current apps only. Sorry about that..

  • All of the work would be in mod-circulation and ui-checkin/ui-checkout as well as requests app and ui-requests

  • There are many use cases that would be solved by this new functionality

  • Jana: I would be very interested in Hearing the other use cases of libraries - still learning About the different libraries in the world :)

  • Anja: Could also work well for all kinds of equipment that should be available for a specific patron for a longer period of time, but Needs to returned to a Service desk in the evening.

5 min

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Chat

16:01:15 Von Alexis Manheim an Alle:
https://folio-org.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/PC/pages/621740051
16:05:06 Von Thomas Trutt an Alle:
They are running away before its to late.
16:05:15 Von Martin Scholz an Alle:
Reacted to "They are running awa..." with 😂
16:05:16 Von Martina Schildt | VZG an Alle:
Reacted to "They are running awa..." with 😂
16:05:20 Von Caitlin Stewart (she/her) an Alle:
🪿
16:05:21 Von Andreas Mace (NLS) an Alle:
Snowstorm in Stockholm too.
16:05:33 Von Thomas Trutt an Alle:
We are supposed to get snow today..
16:05:33 Von Jana Freytag an Alle:
We had one this morning as well :D
16:06:45 Von Andreas Mace (NLS) an Alle:
Kajsa is here from NLS as well. =)
16:07:08 Von Alexis Manheim an Alle:
Reacted to "Kajsa is here from N..." with 👋🏻
16:11:39 Von Brooks Travis an Alle:
I really wish I could have been in the meeting where this was discussed with RA SIG 🙁. I feel like there is an alternative approach that would dovetail very nicely with an “alternative loans” workflow.
16:12:22 Von Brooks Travis an Alle:
I’ve seen some items with a LOT of notes
16:12:49 Von Charlotte Whitt an Alle:
I can take a Great Dane - np
16:13:19 Von Brooks Travis an Alle:
There is a pun in there…
16:13:29 Von Andreas Mace (NLS) an Alle:
Reacted to "There is a pun in th..." with 🤣
16:14:14 Von Alexis Manheim an Alle:
Reacted to "There is a pun in th..." with 🤣
16:16:04 Von Jana Freytag an Alle:
Reacted to "There is a pun in th..." with 🤣
16:16:43 Von Andreas Mace (NLS) an Alle:
https://folio-org.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/RA/pages/414056522
16:21:27 Von Charlotte Whitt an Alle:
The feature you talk about Brooks is that: UXPROD-4398. Not scheduled, and XXL < 30 Days work?
16:23:49 Von Thomas Trutt an Alle:
Reacted to "The feature you talk..." with 🙏🏻
16:25:53 Von Kristin Martin an Alle:
Like Building Use only vs. a reading-room use only?
16:27:08 Von Brooks Travis an Alle:
I really think this should be more tightly integrated into the existing circulation apps
16:27:19 Von Brooks Travis an Alle:
Rather than a standalone UI experience
16:28:03 Von Thomas Trutt an Alle:
Im not sure what you mean brooks.. It is using the current ui, just extending them.
16:28:11 Von Andreas Mace (NLS) an Alle:
Replying to "Rather than a standa..."

The idea is to use the existing circle apps. Check-out, requests and check-in. But perhaps you mean something else?

16:28:14 Von Brooks Travis an Alle:
Ok. I thought you were proposing a new app
16:28:39 Von Thomas Trutt an Alle:
Oh no.. the opposite.. extending the current apps only. Sorry about that..
16:28:40 Von Brooks Travis an Alle:
So all of the work would be in mod-circulation and ui-checkin/ui-checkout
16:28:55 Von Charlotte Whitt an Alle:
Reacted to "Oh no.. the opposite..." with 👍
16:28:58 Von Thomas Trutt an Alle:
As well as requests app
16:29:06 Von Brooks Travis an Alle:
And ui-requests
16:29:12 Von Thomas Trutt an Alle:
Correct..
16:29:23 Von Charlotte Whitt an Alle:
I think you did have that on one of the first slides Thomas
16:29:39 Von Alexis Manheim an Alle:
Aeon
16:29:50 Von Brooks Travis an Alle:
Yeah, I missed the first couple slides. I’d zoomed in and didn’t zoom back out
16:30:01 Von Charlotte Whitt an Alle:
Reacted to "Yeah, I missed the f..." with 🌸
16:30:12 Von Brooks Travis an Alle:
Have you considered how this would interact with the new mediated requests application?
16:31:31 Von Andreas Mace (NLS) an Alle:
I’m sorry but I have to leave. But Kajsa will stay and can answer questions you might have.
16:31:49 Von Kristin Martin an Alle:
BRB
16:32:13 Von Brooks Travis an Alle:
It’s not a standalone app, though
16:33:34 Von Kristin Martin an Alle:
back
16:34:09 Von Alexis Manheim an Alle:
Reading room access vs. Reading room circulation
16:34:45 Von Caitlin Stewart (she/her) an Alle:
folks someone stepped into my office right as we got into this - I'm here and can help distinguish if that is helpful
16:36:46 Von Jana Freytag an Alle:
I would be very interested in Hearing the other use cases of libraries - still learning About the different libraries in the world :)
16:37:13 Von Jana Freytag an Alle:
I mean the other uses of this feature ;)
16:40:10 Von Jana Freytag an Alle:
Those would still be used in the reading room Right?
16:40:44 Von Jana Freytag an Alle:
I'm not partial on the Name at all, just interested in the other use cases.
16:41:29 Von Anja Kakau an Alle:
Could also work well for all kinds of equipment that should be available for a specific patron for a longer period of time, but Needs to returned to a Service desk in the evening.
16:41:52 Von Jana Freytag an Alle:
Also happy to see that this feature is usefull in many ways 🥳
16:41:59 Von Charlotte Whitt an Alle:
Reacted to "Could also work well..." with 👍
16:42:06 Von Jesse Koennecke (he/him) an Alle:
Thanks a lot, Tom!
16:42:14 Von Caitlin Stewart (she/her) an Alle:
Thanks!
16:42:34 Von Martina Schildt | VZG an Alle:
Reacted to "Thanks a lot, Tom!" with 💯
16:42:40 Von Charlotte Whitt an Alle:
Thanks Tom. Great presentation
16:42:43 Von Thomas Trutt an Alle:
Replying to "Also happy to see th..."

Im really excited for it, to be honest..

16:42:46 Von Anja Kakau an Alle:
Reacted to "Thanks a lot, Tom!" with 💯
16:42:56 Von Thomas Trutt an Alle:
Reacted to "Thanks a lot, Tom!" with 🙏🏻
16:42:58 Von Thomas Trutt an Alle:
Reacted to "Thanks Tom. Great pr..." with 🙏🏻
16:43:19 Von Kristin Martin an Alle:
I think it is well-documented
16:43:34 Von Thomas Trutt an Alle:
My dogs just passed out.. 🤣

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