2023-09-25 Meeting notes: Container records | Handling packages in FOLIO

Date

Sep 25, 2023 

Housekeeping

• Convener and notes: @Martina Schildt 

• Next meeting: Oct 4, 2023 

Discussion items

1. Demo on possible solution for parts of container use case line 7 | @Sara Colglazier

2. Demo on package handling in Agreements app | @Owen Stephens

Minutes

Sara demos possible solutions for the use cases listed in line 7

Martina to separate those use cases

• Ability to manage a set of records for resources. It would be great if information could be managed at the container level such as:

  • for eResources, an end date when these eResources won't be available.

    • Sara: we add a code in MARC records (035 9) - it comes up as an identifier → system control number

    • it consist of a code and end dates (e.g. MHebSPR22* → for MH ebooks that end in Spring 2022)

    • a local ID could be created if this shoukd be a separate ID

    • the identifier is searchable

    • overlays by OCLC records may happen → then the ID would be gone

    • rather than adding the package titles in orders, they are batch loaded to Inventory → the URL to the Inventory search for all relevant resources can then be linked

    • the URL fro the Inventory search can be added to supplementary documents in Agreements

    • rather than an own record, we need to be able to manage the data

  • For eResources, ability to manage the prefix, link text, and public note for holdings records at the container level

    • reference data

    • when in INventory → Electronic access → relationship : resource → would be good to have a drop down to choose a link text

    • could be set up in settings

    • Laura in chat: I wonder if the URL prefix management might also be a Lists and/or Bulk Edit thing? (rather than a need for a Container record per se)
      that's a really interesting idea, Sara, of expanding the Electronic access block even more -- it's a good time to talk about this, as we're needing to make other changes to that data already (to accommodate additions to the MARC standard)

  • For any resources, ability to add information such as donor or gift history and bookplate information.

    • we should talk to Dennis, there is work going on related to these requirements

• it seems we do not necessarily need container records, but the possibility to add data that is additionally needed

• Sara: we have added item administrative notes - is also avalable for holdings

• Laura: information is not needed in Inventory, but we need to be able to get there from Inventory

Package handling in Agreements app

• in local KB: concept of package and title in a package (=Package Content Item or PCI)

• each PCI has access start and access end date (this is not coverage!) - date when title joins or leaves a package

• even if a journal ceased publication, a library may still have access to the title in the package

• → a package can change over time, packages are not static

• Packages in eHoldings: similar concept of packages

• packages and titles can be selected or unselected, but no dates associated with titles in package

• Agreements and Agreement lines

• Agreement lines (AGL) can be for:

  • a package of resources in local KB or in eHoldings

  • a particular title in local KB or eHoldings

  • not linked to a resource (use a textual description)

• each AGL has an active from and to date

• challenges fro agreements

  • active from/to dates not clear enough

  • lack of integration between AGL active/inactive dates and eHoldings selected statuses

  • differences in package content management (local KB vs. eHoldings)

  • POLs are linked to AGLs

  • Orders and Agreements cannot be linked

  • Agreements is focussed on ERM use cases

  • no integration between Agreements and Inventory - come back to in next meeting

    • better integration between electronic and physical

  • capture history over a long time - this is what we had expected from containers and we is still needed in FOLIO

  • Sara: system has no capability for large amounts of data

  • many areas are lacking memory as well as scalability (FOLIO s trying to get rid of scaling issues)

Chat

18:03:00 From Martina Schildt | VZG To Everyone:
    Agenda for today: AppInt:2023-09-25 Meeting notes: Container records
18:24:19 From Laura Daniels To Everyone:
    I wonder if the URL prefix management might also be a Lists and/or Bulk Edit thing? (rather than a need for a Container record per se)
18:25:50 From Laura Daniels To Everyone:
    that's a really interesting idea, Sara, of expanding the Electronic access block even more -- it's a good time to talk about this, as we're needing to make other changes to that data already (to accommodate additions to the MARC standard)
18:39:27 From Laura Daniels To Everyone:
    E-books behave a lot like serials in many ways
18:53:21 From Laura Daniels To Everyone:
    apologies, I need to drop off a little early today -- thank you so much Sara & Owen for these demos
18:53:31 From Martina Schildt | VZG To Everyone:
    Reacted to "apologies, I need to..." with 👋
18:53:36 From Martina Schildt | VZG To Everyone:
    Reacted to "apologies, I need to..." with 🙏

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