2023-04-24 Meeting notes: Date filters
Date
Housekeeping
- Convener and notes: Martina Schildt
- Announcement: Workflows/Camunda development will be discussed in PC meeting on at 9:30 AM ET
- Next meeting: May 3rd
Discussion items
- Date filters and how they work in different apps
Minutes
Orders
- Orders search tab, filter "Date created" / "Date opened"
- Can't search for "On or after" and "On or before" independent from the other field, e.g. "From" = 12/01/2022 w/o setting "To" will display an error "Please enter an end date"
- Question: better to be able to search one field regardless of the other field
See also:
- Circulation log search tab, filter "Date"
- Receiving search tab, filters "Received date", "Expected receipt date", "Receipt due"
- Inventory Instance, Item and Holdings search tabs, filter "Date created", "Date updated"
- Invoice search tab, "Date created", "Invoice date", "Payment due", "Approval date"
- Export manager search tab, "Start time", "End time"
- MARC authority search tab, "Date created", "Date updated"
Agreements
- Agreements search tab filters "Start date", "End date", "Cancellation deadline"
- Can search for "On or after" and "On or before" independent from the other field, e.g. only "On or after" = 12/01/2022
See also:
- Licenses search tab, filters "Start date" / "End date"
- Open Access search tab, filter "Request date"
Dashboard
- Agreements widget, filter by "Start date", "End date", Cancellation deadline"
- Can search on date as "is", "is not", "on or after", "on or before"
- Supports relative date options (Today, X days/weeks/months/years before or after Today)
- Supports a fixed date as well
See also:
- Licenses widget
Conclusions
- There are 3 patterns
- "from" ... "to"
- "on or after" ... "on or before"
- including the option to include records where a specific date is not set
- this is implemented in ERM apps and can be used solely or additionally to specific dates
- before implementing this there were options discussed with the users
- Gill created some mock-ups, the SIG agreed on the current solution
- options in widgets
- the group prefers the option used e.g. in agreements which is: Can search for "On or after" and "On or before" independent from the other field, e.g. only "On or after" = 12/01/2022
- to search for a period, both fields can be filled
- desirable is the addditional checkbox option to Include records with no xxx date set, e.g. "Include agreements with no end date set"
- important: add this checkbox only where possible and where it makes sense | that is where the date needs is optional
- additional requirement: specific and exact day search
- users may need to search for a specific day e.g. when they made a mistakes on a specific day and they want to search for all relevant records
- so far searching for specific dates is only possible in Dahsboard widgets
- would be good to hear thoughts from Gill or Kimie on single dates
- idea: use a checkbox to select "single date" and then only one date field occurs or needs to be filled
- further requirement related to all date fields across all apps
- be able to enter dates without slashes, just the numbers
Next steps: Martina will forward conclusions to POs and raise relevant topics when we next dicsuss UX/UI issues
Chat
18:01:35 Von Martina Schildt | VZG an Alle:
Hello, link to our Agenda: 2023-04-24 Meeting notes: Date filters
18:03:18 Von Owen Stephens an Alle:
I’ve just added some more date search examples to the wiki page - hope that’s ok
18:04:40 Von Owen Stephens an Alle:
I think the Orders example and the Inventory example are the same?
18:04:48 Von Owen Stephens an Alle:
In terms of how the date filter works I mean
18:09:56 Von Maura Byrne an Alle:
If you’re searching for “no date,” does that mean “all dates because no date is specified” or “no date specified in the record?”
18:15:27 Von Laura Daniels (she/they) an Alle:
Agreements solution is nicer, and it would be best to have consistency across FOLIO
18:15:40 Von Maura Byrne an Alle:
Reacted to "Agreements solution ..." with 👍
18:15:51 Von Dung-Lan Chen an Alle:
There is also "Date created" in Invoices App that one can search.
18:16:09 Von Jana Freytag an Alle:
Reacted to "Agreements solution ..." with 👍
18:18:06 Von Owen Stephens an Alle:
As far as I know he only place that the ‘exact date’ match is supported explicitly is the Dashboard widget setting
18:18:43 Von Kristin Martin an Alle:
If you make start date and end date the same, does it just pull out the information on that day?
18:19:26 Von Dung-Lan Chen an Alle:
Yes, Kristin, in the case searching in Invoices
18:19:33 Von Jana Freytag an Alle:
Yes for Circ log
18:20:18 Von Jana Freytag an Alle:
Not sure why it says MS The Messages are from me, Jana :D
18:27:46 Von Maura Byrne an Alle:
Hard agree, Owen!
18:30:16 Von Maura Byrne an Alle:
So type “01012023”, and the display is “01/01/2023”?
18:30:22 Von Kimberly Pamplin an Alle:
Yes
18:31:33 Von Jana Freytag an Alle:
never tested it but it's the same in German 24.04.2023 you have to type the dot
18:32:00 Von Kristin Martin an Alle:
Sorry folks, need to run!
18:32:03 Von Jana Freytag an Alle:
2023/04/24 didn't work though
18:32:12 Von Owen Stephens an Alle:
Reacted to "2023/04/24 didn't wo..." with 👍
18:32:14 Von Kimberly Pamplin an Alle:
Thank you!
18:32:19 Von Owen Stephens an Alle:
Reacted to "never tested it but ..." with 👍
18:36:29 Von Laura Daniels (she/they) an Alle:
agree, the option to enter a single date once is very appealing
18:40:08 Von Susanne an Alle:
sorry, have to leave early today…. brilliant discussion!
18:46:24 Von Owen Stephens an Alle:
And the ‘single exact date’ option
18:47:06 Von Kimberly Pamplin an Alle:
Thank you!
Transcript
Future topics
- Topic proposal by Owen Stephens for October:
- Use of shortcut keys and macros for more effective cross-app working - it also be good to have UX and Stripes/dev knowledge for this discussion I think. I know @Laura (she/they) uses macros so might have insights into the potential for cross-app working
- UX/UI and implementers topics
- should be Wednesdays
- Comprehensive look at where data is copied and stored as opposed to live data | how it is represented
- Date filters and how they work in different apps
Attendees
Present | Name | Home Organization |
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Brooks Travis | EBSCO | |
Charlotte Whitt | Index Data | |
Dennis Bridges | EBSCO | |
x | Dung-Lan Chen | Skidmore College |
Erin Nettifee | Duke | |
Gill Osguthorpe | UX/UI Designer - K-Int | |
Heather McMillan Thoele | TAMU | |
Ian Ibbotson | Developer Lead - K-Int | |
Jag Goraya | K-Int | |
x | Jana Freytag | VZG, Göttingen |
Jenn Colt | Cornell | |
Khalilah Gambrell | EBSCO | |
x | Kimberly Pamplin | TAMU |
Kirstin Kemner-Heek | VZG, Göttingen | |
x | Kristin Martin | Chicago |
x | Laura Daniels | Cornell |
Marc Johnson | K-Int | |
x | Martina Schildt | VZG, Göttingen |
x | Martina Tumulla | hbz, Cologne |
x | Maura Byrne | Chicago |
x | Owen Stephens | Product Owner - Owen Stephens Consulting |
Sara Colglazier | Five Colleges / Mount Holyoke College Library | |
x | Susanne Schuster | BSZ Konstanz |
John Coburn | EBSCO | |
Zak Burke | EBSCO | |
Shannon Burke |