2023-02-13 Meeting notes: Workflow tools | next steps
Date
Housekeeping
- Convener and notes: Martina Schildt
- Next meeting:
Discussion items
- Workflow tools
- What are the differences and what are the similarities
- How can we make the solutions more adoptable?
- Next steps: e.g. create a Slack channel wehre people can share tools and experiences
- AI SIG survey
Minutes
Workflows
Workflow tool | Used by institution | Type of tasks / workflows | Notes |
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Camunda | TAMU |
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JIRA | Lehigh |
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Prefect | Cornell |
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Airflow | Stanford |
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- Next steps: e.g. create a Slack channel wehre people can share tools and experiences
- Questions
- could the work that has been done for FOLIO to work with Camunda be used for Prefect or Airflow as well?
- the closer tools are tied to FOLIO the more accessible?
- will hosts support it?
- for Elastic Search/Open Search they did
- not for LDP
- FOLIO internal vs. external solution for workflows - is there a preference - what are the thoughts of the TC?
- How progress workflow discussion → PC?
- would need PO and dev team to make progress
- Heather will reach out to TAMU on their plans on Camunda
- to improve the overall experience I would ask you to answer the linked survey, that will only take a few minutes
- the survey will be open until Feb 22nd
Chat
Transcript
Future topics
- Topic proposal by Owen Stephens for October:
- Use of shortcut keys and macros for more effective cross-app working - it also be good to have UX and Stripes/dev knowledge for this discussion I think. I know @Laura (she/they) uses macros so might have insights into the potential for cross-app working
- Potential for external 'workflow' solutions for cross-app interactions
- I think 'workflow' is a dangerous term here - in this context it's more about automation than user workflows, although I think there is overlap
- I was particularly struck by the solution in production at TAMU (Jeremy Huff and Sebastian Hammer presented, the recording is at https://prod-zoom-recordings-openlibraryfoundation-org.s3.amazonaws.com/50dc6c87-3912-43fa-8287-56ec73b12bbb%2Fshared_screen_with_speaker_view%28CC%29.mp4 starting at 3 hrs, 14 min) - I think getting someone from TAMU to talk about how this is used would be v interesting
- There was also a presentation on the use of a tool called Airflow at Stanford for "bibliographic workflow" but I've not watched that yet so not 100% sure if it is completely applicable - I think the core use case there was systems migration but it may go beyond that
- Jenn Colt on using Prefect
- does not need to be workflow across apps
- UX/UI and implementers topics
- should be Wednesdays
- Comprehensive look at where data is copied and stored as opposed to live data | how it is represented
- Date filters and how they work in different apps
Attendees
Present | Name | Home Organization |
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Brooks Travis | EBSCO | |
Charlotte Whitt | Index Data | |
Dennis Bridges | EBSCO | |
x | Dung-Lan Chen | Skidmore College |
Erin Nettifee | Duke | |
Gill Osguthorpe | UX/UI Designer - K-Int | |
x | Heather McMillan Thoele | TAMU |
Ian Ibbotson | Developer Lead - K-Int | |
Jag Goraya | K-Int | |
regrets | Jana Freytag | VZG, Göttingen |
x | Jenn Colt | Cornell |
Khalilah Gambrell | EBSCO | |
Kimberly Pamplin | TAMU | |
Kirstin Kemner-Heek | VZG, Göttingen | |
x | Kristin Martin | Chicago |
Laura Daniels | Cornell | |
Lloyd Chittenden | Marmot Library Network | |
Marc Johnson | K-Int | |
x | Martina Schildt | VZG, Göttingen |
Martina Tumulla | hbz, Cologne | |
x | Maura Byrne | Chicago |
Mike Gorrell | Index Data | |
x | Owen Stephens | Product Owner - Owen Stephens Consulting |
Patty Wanninger | Product owner Users app | |
Rachel A Sneed | TAMU | |
Sara Colglazier | Five Colleges / Mount Holyoke College Library | |
x | Susanne Schuster | BSZ Konstanz |
John Coburn | EBSCO | |
Zak Burke | EBSCO | |
Daniel Huang | Lehigh | |
Maccabee Levine | Lehigh | |
Robert Scheier | Holy Cross | |
Jeremy Nelson | Stanford | |
Ingolf Kuss | hbz |