2023-02-13 Meeting notes: Workflow tools | next steps

Date

Feb 13, 2023

Housekeeping

• Convener and notes: @Martina Schildt

• Next meeting: Feb 22, 2023

Discussion items

1. Workflow tools

   1. What are the differences and what are the similarities

   2. How can we make the solutions more adoptable?

   3. Next steps: e.g. create a Slack channel wehre people can share tools and experiences

2. AI SIG survey

Minutes

Workflows

• Next steps: e.g. create a Slack channel wehre people can share tools and experiences

• Questions 

  • could the work that has been done for FOLIO to work with Camunda be used for Prefect or Airflow as well?

  • the closer tools are tied to FOLIO the more accessible?

  • will hosts support it?

    • for Elastic Search/Open Search they did

    • not for LDP

  • FOLIO internal vs. external solution for workflows - is there a preference - what are the thoughts of the TC?

  • How progress workflow discussion → PC?

    • would need PO and dev team to make progress

    • Heather will reach out to TAMU on their plans on Camunda

AI SIG survey

• to improve the overall experience I would ask you to answer the linked survey, that will only take a few minutes

• the survey will be open until Feb 22nd

Chat

Transcript

Future topics

• Topic proposal by @Owen Stephens for October:

  • Use of shortcut keys and macros for more effective cross-app working  - it also be good to have UX and Stripes/dev knowledge for this discussion I think. I know @Laura (she/they) uses macros so might have insights into the potential for cross-app working

  • Potential for external 'workflow' solutions for cross-app interactions

    • I think 'workflow' is a dangerous term here - in this context it's more about automation than user workflows, although I think there is overlap

    • I was particularly struck by the solution in production at TAMU (Jeremy Huff and Sebastian Hammer presented, the recording is at https://prod-zoom-recordings-openlibraryfoundation-org.s3.amazonaws.com/50dc6c87-3912-43fa-8287-56ec73b12bbb%2Fshared_screen_with_speaker_view%28CC%29.mp4 starting at 3 hrs, 14 min) - I think getting someone from TAMU to talk about how this is used would be v interesting

    • There was also a presentation on the use of a tool called Airflow at Stanford for "bibliographic workflow" but I've not watched that yet so not 100% sure if it is completely applicable - I think the core use case there was systems migration but it may go beyond that

    • Jenn Colt on using Prefect

    • does not need to be workflow across apps

• UX/UI and implementers topics

  • should be Wednesdays

• Comprehensive look at where data is copied and stored as opposed to live data | how it is represented

• Date filters and how they work in different apps

Attendees

Action items