2024-3-13 Data Import Subgroup meeting
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Requirements details Here Additional discussion topics in Subgroup parking lot
Attendees: Ellis Butler Peter Martinez Ryan Taylor Christie Thomas Tess Amram Lynne Fors Corrie Hutchinson (Unlicensed) Kim Wiljanen Jennifer Eustis Yael Hod Sara Colglazier Robert Pleshar
Notetaker: Christie Thomas
Links:
- Data Import Topic Tracker
- Poppy import planning dashboard
- Poppy timeline
- Quesnelia import planning dashboard
- Quesnelia timeline
- Folijet Current Development Board
- Folijet (Data import) Bug Dashboard
Agenda:
Topic | Who | Meeting Notes | Related Jira | Decisions and Actions |
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Announcements:
| Ryan/all | Poppy CSP 2 Release notes: https://folio-org.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/REL/pages/39944194/Critical+Service+Patch+2
Poppy CSP#2 Test execution results: https://foliotest.testrail.io/index.php?/plans/view/2382 CSP 2 is out and CSP 3 is scheduled for March 29. Enhancement request: Use case for adding today's date to an Admin note: I want to be able to track changes made when updating e-resource records by using an admin note with the ###TODAY### format used in the Instance Cataloged date field. would want to be able to code it into an Import job. For example, Adding a new Admin note with "Updated ###TODAY###" and then today's date would be automatically populated. Or replacing a previous Admin Note with today's updated date. | ||
Ramsons Priorities Exercise | Ryan |
Q: Are we limited to just the features in the spreadsheet or can we add features in the spreadsheet. A: Intention was just the features, but open to others. Send Ryan a message to add something. Or can add a line and highlight it in yellow. Q: How do we consider things that don't have adequate representation in Jira, such as MARC modifications. A: We need to discuss in this group on how to get those things into Jira as features or bugs. Team is working on some Marc Modifications updates. Hopefully we can look at this next week. Will help us what is still missing. Q: Should we be using the voting functionality that is built into Jira. A: Ryan has not used it, but Jennifer Eustis has started voting for issues. As has Lynne Fors. And, Acq Sig used the voting functionality. Likes the idea of using the votes, but maybe reorganizing the approach. Pause on the activity and revisit plan of using voting. Feel free to review the issues in the spreadsheet. Ryan will come up with a new plan. | ||
Demo: UXPROD-4303: Set instance/bib record for deletion | Ryan | Set bib record for deletion is in place in snapshot. New set record for deletion action. Need a specific permission to have access to this. 9Separate from inventory All permissions. Click the action to suppress the record from discovery, staff suppress the record, and set the LDR 05 to d. New SRS property "deleted" set to true. Staff suppress will now be defaulted to No, so will not show up in search. Q: What happens to attached orders? A: Nothing right now, but Ryan will check on impact on associated records. Q: Can you do this batch with a delete file in Data Import? A: No. Just an individual, manual action to take. Step 1 of longer term plans for full deletion options. Q: Are other steps going to be continued before this becomes part of a release? A: Will be included as is in Quesnalia. Holdings and items should not be affected as part of this release. Concern: Hacving holdings and items available with the instance being deleted. Cannot imagine a situation in which you want to delete an instance and still have the holdings and item information available with a search. Also, if an item is checked out, it should block you from deleting a bib. Or on hold. Or in course reserves. Not interactive link with inventory or circulation control. Follow up Q: Would there be a script available to get this added to Instance records a library has already marked for delete? Q: What is the push this out in its partially developed state? A: Someone would use it to delete duplicate instances in the system. These things usually do not have holdings or items. Q: What would happen if a deleted record was matched and updated as a part of a data import? A: Believe that these records are not discoverable via data import matching and updates, but will check on that. Q: How do holdings and items show up in search if the instance is not available in the search? A: notetaker is unclear of the answer to this question Q: Can you reverse this process or undelete things? A: Manually edit the instance to undo the suppression, but cannot edit the marc once it has been set to deletion. Triggered by the status to deletion. Question about whether we need to revisit this. This functionality should be robustly described in the documentation so users fully understand the implications of deleting something. Suggestion: The warning toast should be delete rather than just suppressed from discovery and staff suppressed because there are implications like not being able to edit the srs marc Suggestion to postpone until Ramsons. | ||
Review issue reported by Christie: Quantity Electronic seems to always be zero (In Poppy with CSP 1) | Christie Thomas/all | Open Questions:
| - MODDATAIMP-1010Getting issue details... STATUS | |
MARC Modification Testing | Jennifer Eustis | Link to spreadsheet:
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Notes from previous meetings... | ||||
Feature/Bug Review: UXPROD-4704: Stop processing the job after it was canceled by user (FKA MODSOURMAN-970) | Ryan/All | Previous notes from 2/21: | - UXPROD-4704Getting issue details... STATUS |
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Bug Review: MODDATAIMP-897 - Adding MARC modifications to single record overlay doesn't respect field protections
| Ryan/Jennifer/All | A number of issues were seen with doing updates. It seems there might be regressions along with functionality that doesn't work: On Create:
On Update:
Logs:
If all this work is being done, should we create jiras for all the ways in which marc modifications don't work? Should we create jiras for modifications that worked in orchid and that no longer work in poppy? It makes sense to create jiras for things that were working that aren't working in Poppy. Let's hold off on what marc modifications should work until we get the developers' findings. Previous notes from 2/22 and 2/14: | This would be a good candidate for the functionality / documentation audit. If development dives into this and the DI lab group dives into this, we could then come together to identify the best way forward
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Missing Action Profiles in Job Profile after Poppy migration: As called out in Poppy Release Notes, there is a known issue that's been observed in which some links to reusable Action Profiles might be missing from Job Profiles after Poppy migration. Release notes recommend the following:
Recommended script will provide list of Action profiles to help users manually recreate any affected Job profiles. | All | MODDINCONV-365 part of CSP#2. Previous notes from 2/7:
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MODDICONV-361Getting issue details...
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Issue specific to unlinking of Action profiles when used by multiple Job profiles after Poppy migration. Ticket now closed and included within Poppy CSP #1.
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MODDICONV-365Getting issue details...
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Partial Matching: | Subject raised by Yael Hod | Not discussed at the 2/21 meeting. Previous notes from 1/31: | Ryan will :
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Documentation: The group has identified a need for new, enhanced, or reorganized documentation around Data Import.
| All | Not discussed at the 2/21 meeting. Previous notes from 1/24 meeting: | N/A |
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De-duplication: Continue conversation from previous session to clarify what we expect from de-duplication of field values when a record is loaded into FOLIO via Data Import. | All | Ryan has discussed this with the team. He will get this in writing and will share this when done. Christie did some work as well in Poppy bugfest. Not discussed at the 2/21 meeting. Previous notes from 1/24 meeting: | MODDATAIMP-879: Data Import removes duplicate 856s in SRS |
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Upcoming meetings/agenda topics:
Chat:
13:09:45 From Lynne Fors to Everyone:
Use case for adding today's date to an Admin note: I want to be able to track changes made when updating e-resource records by using an admin note with the ###TODAY### format used in the Instance Cataloged date field. would want to be able to code it into an Import job. For example, Adding a new Admin note with "Updated ###TODAY###" and then today's date would be automatically populated. Or replacing a previous Admin Note with today's updated date.
13:15:22 From Lynne Fors to Everyone:
13:20:52 From Yael to Everyone:
am i the only one not hearing anything?
13:21:11 From Lynne Fors to Everyone:
Replying to "am i the only one no..."
My audio is fine.
13:21:35 From Yael to Everyone:
Replying to "am i the only one no..."
ugh, mine disapeared
13:21:47 From Jennifer Eustis to Everyone:
Replying to "am i the only one no..."
Mine is ok too
13:23:08 From Jennifer Eustis to Everyone:
I've started voted for issues
13:23:15 From Yael to Everyone:
Replying to "am i the only one no..."
ok, back now
13:23:30 From Lynne Fors to Everyone:
I have started to vote too
13:23:31 From scolglaz to Everyone:
We do it in ACQ SIG
13:24:22 From scolglaz to Everyone:
We are talking about the thumbs up thing, right?
13:24:28 From Jennifer Eustis to Everyone:
Reacted to "We are talking about..." with 💯
13:28:03 From Lynne Fors to Everyone:
Reacted to "We are talking about..." with 💯
13:33:02 From Kimberly Wiljanen to Everyone:
What happens to any orders that might be attached?
13:33:27 From Lynne Fors to Everyone:
Can you do this in batch with a delete file in Data Import?
13:34:59 From Yael to Everyone:
When is this planned for?
13:35:05 From Lynne Fors to Everyone:
Would there be a script available to get this added to Instance records a library has already marked for delete?
13:36:59 From Jennifer Eustis to Everyone:
Or on hold
13:37:12 From Lynne Fors to Everyone:
This would be a problem with Courses as it makes a copy of the Instance but doesn't interact with Inventory
13:37:30 From Lynne Fors to Everyone:
Replying to "Or on hold"
Or on course reserve
13:45:50 From Christie Thomas (she/her) to Everyone:
I captured this question in the notes, but I am not really sure about the answer, so there is no answer to this question provided. Feel free to add to my notes!
13:46:07 From Lynne Fors to Everyone:
Is Staff Suppress visibility a prermission that needs to be added?
13:46:58 From Lynne Fors to Everyone:
Can you unmark for delete and reverse the process?
13:48:45 From Lynne Fors to Everyone:
We definitely should be able to reverse the process.
13:49:05 From Christie Thomas (she/her) to Everyone:
I missed your first question, Jennifer so it is not in the notes. About the toast / warning.
13:50:21 From Jennifer Eustis to Everyone:
The warning toast should be delete rather than just suppressed from discovery and staff suppressed because there are implications like not being able to edit the srs marc
13:50:28 From Robert Pleshar (he/him) Library to Everyone:
Reacted to "The warning toast sh..." with 👍
13:50:44 From Jennifer Eustis to Everyone:
+1 Christie
13:50:49 From Lynne Fors to Everyone:
Reacted to "The warning toast sh..." with 👍
13:50:53 From Lynne Fors to Everyone:
Reacted to "+1 Christie" with ➕
13:51:12 From Jennifer Eustis to Everyone:
And I would prefer to delay this to Ramsons so that we can consider all the implications and what we want for the 1st iteration of this functionality
13:53:53 From Yael to Everyone:
Reacted to "And I would prefer t..." with 👍
13:54:04 From Yael to Everyone:
Reacted to "+1 Christie" with ➕
13:54:49 From Peter Martinez to Everyone:
Reacted to "And I would prefer t..." with 👍
13:55:00 From Lynne Fors to Everyone:
Reacted to "And I would prefer t..." with 👍
13:59:35 From Yael to Everyone:
I'm sorry. I have another meeting to get to.