2022-02-23 - ERM meeting

Meeting Time:    8 am EST /  2 pm CET / 1 pm UK

Call in Number:     https://zoom.us/j/995679876 

Meeting URLhttps://zoom.us/j/995679876 Password needed: please see link below

https://folio-org.atlassian.net/wiki/display/COMMUNITY/FOLIO+Meetings+with+Zoom

 

ERM SIG Folio Wiki: https://folio-org.atlassian.net/wiki/display/ERMSIG/

Google Folder: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/17X3tr6siZH8iS07kGcjAqUNl01zVrJmB

Terms and definitions: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vue-mbcULpZivWu69a7nAZEdC-H2yXPQqSblbL_0J6U

Slack Channel: # erm-team


Agenda Feb 23rd 2022

Convener: Martina T.

Notetaker: Martina S.

Housekeeping


Agenda items

  1. Development progress -  ERM Sprint 134
  2. Implementer's topics - please answer the questions in this document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1j18mC0oIf0HjY9soWDDwJpUVXqzC8jHIKVbOa-CIBaU/edit
    • Warnings for expired licenses on agreements

    • Multi-valued terms for licenses

Minutes

Development progress update

  • Lotus release sprint
  • there is a Kiwi bugfix release deadline as well
  • releasing both new updates for Lotus and bugfixes for agreements for Kiwi bugfix release
  • respobse time in agreements can be very slow in Kiwi if there are many agreements → solution is in testing
    • Felix in chat: How many agreements does it need to get to the point where the app gets slower?
    • Owen: there was a change in Kiwi; not only agreements but agreement lines are retrieved as well
      • so it will depend not only on the agreements but on the number of agreement lines as well and the related resources
    • Felix: would it be worth revisiting the decision to display the agreements when entering the app instead of needing to search first?
    • Owen: happy to revisit - added to Implementers page to come back to discuss it
  • other issue:  number of agreement lines to be displayed, that is set in settings, was ignored
  • Sara: when starting FOLIO and Agreements for a moment the E-resources and platforms tab is displayed although, the "Hide internal agreements knowledgebase" is checked in settings and the tabs should not display - after some seconds it changes to the correct display
    • Owen cannot give a definitive answer; hide internal KB is changing the UI, no different software; the functionality is still there, but hidden from the UI
    • it is possible, that when logging in there is a timing issue where the system has not retrieved the information from the settings
    • Owen will follow up with the developers

Warnings for expired licenses on agreements

  • expired amendments on agreements → there is an exclamation mark as a warning on the agreement record
  • there is no such functionality for an inactive license on an agreement at the moment
  • feedback:
  • it would be great to replicate the functionality for the amendment - for licenses in a controlling state
  • would be helpful to add some kind of a report to the dashboard
  • when do we expect to see this kind of warning?
  • more focus on license status;
  • there could be an active license with end date in the past (PCA example) → information banner would be wanted here
  • another example: end dates may not be used until something is done (open ended); so tying to dates is problematic
  • warning is important while working on a record; is highly important and would be a good improvement
  • additionally reports are really important or at least having the option to search and filter for expired but controlling licenses
  • sharable widgets would be great → some planning on this has been done → would need resource to be delivered
  • status is primary
  • because of the short notice we will revisit the document/questions, then Owen will come up with a proposal

Multi-valued terms for licenses

  • sometimes there are single license terms where I would like to record multiple values
  • example: forms of authentication/supported authentication types
  • questions: are multi-valued terms always pick list type terms
  • Jack/UMass: pick lists most pressing, but multi-value free text fields would aslo be helpful
  • Julie: Duke would not need multi-valued terms; using y/n and adding an internal note
  • Felix: term for applicable law - (e.g. Germany, Switzerland) - if there are 2 countries, which can occur in edge cases, multi-valued terms would be needed
  • ERM team needs to get to the technical difficulties that have been encountered
  • Owen will come up with a proposal (best structure in data model and best structure presented to users need to align)

Chat

Von Owen Stephens an alle 02:02 PM
It’s me that owes the apology rather than Martina - the delay was all my fault!
Von Felix Hemme (ZBW) an alle 02:05 PM
How many agreements does it need to get to the point where the app gets slower?
Von Sara Colglazier (MHC/5C) an alle 02:08 PM
Before we leave this Settings page, I have a question
Von Felix Hemme (ZBW) an alle 02:13 PM
Thanks!
Von Martina Schildt an alle 02:35 PM
Agree
Von Julie Brannon (she/her) an alle 02:36 PM
Agree
Von Kristin Martin an alle 02:36 PM
agree with focus on controlling
Von Felix Hemme (ZBW) an alle 02:38 PM
https://ux.folio.org/storybook/?path=/story/messagebanner--basic-usage
Von Martina Schildt an alle 02:46 PM
+1 to status being primary
Von Kristin Martin an alle 02:51 PM
Jack, can you give an example?
Von Sara Colglazier (MHC/5C) an alle 02:55 PM
what he was thinking ...

Attendees list

Present

Name

Home Organization


Aaron Neslin

UMass


Abigail Wickes

Duke University Libraries


Alaina Deane

Duke


Alice Daugherty

University of Alabama


Alissa HafeleStanford University

Alistair Morrison

Johns Hopkins University Libraries


Amanda Cornwell

Johns Hopkins University Libraries


Amelia Sutton

UMass


Andrea Meindl

UB Regensburg


Ann-Marie Breaux

EBSCO


Annika Schröer

UB Leipzig


Annika Zierhut

Anu Moorthy

Duke


Anya Arnold

EBSCO

x

Beate Aretz


x

Benjamin Ahlborn

SuUB Bremen


Birgit Neumann

Björn Muschall

UB Leipzig


Carole Godfrey

EBSCO


Catherine Tuohy

Emmanuel College 


Charlotte Whitt

Index Data

x

Claudia Malzer

ULB Darmstadt, Developer


Dennis Bridges

EBSCO

x

Dwayne Swigert

Missouri State University

x

Emma Raub 

Cornell


Eric Hartnett

Texas A&M University

x

Felix Hemme

ZBW Kiel


Frances Webb

Cornell, Developer


Gang ZhouShanghai Library

Gill Osguthorpe

UX/UI Designer - K-Int


Gisela Weinerth

SUB Hamburg


Heather MacFarlane

Heather Thoele

Texas A&M University


Ian Ibbotson

Developer Lead - K-Int


Jack Mulvaney

UMass


Jag Goraya

K-Int

x

Janet Ewing

Five Colleges / Mount Holyoke College Library


Jenna Lantermann

Five Colleges / Smith College 


Jenna Strawbridge

Duke


Jessica Harris

Chicago


Jir Shin Boey

Missouri State University


Joe Sikowitz

Fenway Library Organization


Johann Rolschewski

ZDB, Berlin


Johanna RaddingFive Colleges / Amherst College
x

Julie Brannon

Duke


Kathleen Berry

UMass Amherst

x

Kathleen Norton

Five Colleges / Mount Holyoke College Library


Katrin Brüggemann

UB Leipzig


Khalilah Gambrell

EBSCO


Kirstin Kemner-Heek  

VZG, Göttingen


Kristen Wilson

Index Data

x

Kristin Martin

Chicago


Kyle Banerjee

EBSCO
x

Lars-Hakan Herbertsson

Chalmers


Laura Wright

Cornell University

xLaurenz KernStabi Berlin

Lindsey Lowry

University of Alabama


Luca Lanzillo

Sapienza Library System - Sapienza University of Rome


Mara Egherman

EBSCO

xMaria Taylor

Marie Widigson

Chalmers


Mariyam Thorhira

Johns Hopkins University Libraries


Marjorie Snyder



Mark Arnold

Missouri State University


Mark Deutsch

Duke


Martin Scholz
x

Martina Karlsson

Chalmers

x

Martina Schildt

VZG, Göttingen

x

Martina Tumulla

hbz, Cologne


Mary O’Brien



Matthieu Bordet

DMCultura, Ravenna, Italy


Mohammad AlhamadMissouri State University

Molly Driscoll

EBSCO


Moritz Horn

VZG, Göttingen

x

Nancy Finn


x

Nancy Pelis

Five Colleges / Mount Holyoke College Library


Norma Flores

Texas A&M University

Olga Harder

TIB Hannover

x

Owen Stephens

Product Owner -  Owen Stephens Consulting


Paul Trumble

Amherst

x

Peter Böhm

HeBIS, Frankfurt


Peter McCracken

Cornell

xRobert ScheierCollege of the Holy Cross

Rüdiger Stratmann

IAI SPK Berlin


Sabine Howahl

ULB Darmstadt


Sabrina Bayer

UB Regensburg

x

Sara Colglazier

Five Colleges / Mount Holyoke College Library


Sarah Dennis

Texas A&M University


Sarah Morgenstern-Einenkel

UB Leipzig


Scott Stangroom

UMass


Siobhan McManamon

Five Colleges / Smith College


Sobha Duvvuri

EBSCO


Stephani KaceliCairn University
x

Stew MacLehose

University of New England

x

Susanne Schuster

BSZ Konstanz

x

Tatjana Clemens

UB Frankfurt


Theodor Tolstoi

Chalmers, EBSCO


Tracy Patton

Missouri State University


Virginia Martin

Duke University Libraries


Xiaoyan (Yan) Song

NCSU


Yvonne Mönkediek

SuUB Bremen