2022-02-23 - ERM meeting
Meeting Time: 8 am EST / 2 pm CET / 1 pm UK
Call in Number: https://zoom.us/j/995679876
Meeting URL: https://zoom.us/j/995679876 Password needed: please see link below
https://folio-org.atlassian.net/wiki/display/COMMUNITY/FOLIO+Meetings+with+Zoom
ERM SIG Folio Wiki: https://folio-org.atlassian.net/wiki/display/ERMSIG/
Google Folder: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/17X3tr6siZH8iS07kGcjAqUNl01zVrJmB
Terms and definitions: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vue-mbcULpZivWu69a7nAZEdC-H2yXPQqSblbL_0J6U
Slack Channel: # erm-team
Agenda Feb 23rd 2022
Convener: Martina T.
Notetaker: Martina S.
Housekeeping
- All: Please edit the attendees list below and indicate when you are there!
- Next ERM meeting: March 9th
- all questions and topics for the ERM implementers meeting can be posted on this confluence page: https://folio-org.atlassian.net/wiki/x/SABS
- Open discuss posts: right now no new posts regarding erm
- PC minutes Feb 10th
- PC minutes Feb 17th
Agenda items
- Development progress - ERM Sprint 134
- Implementer's topics - please answer the questions in this document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1j18mC0oIf0HjY9soWDDwJpUVXqzC8jHIKVbOa-CIBaU/edit
Warnings for expired licenses on agreements
- Multi-valued terms for licenses
Minutes
Development progress update
- Lotus release sprint
- there is a Kiwi bugfix release deadline as well
- releasing both new updates for Lotus and bugfixes for agreements for Kiwi bugfix release
- respobse time in agreements can be very slow in Kiwi if there are many agreements → solution is in testing
- Felix in chat: How many agreements does it need to get to the point where the app gets slower?
- Owen: there was a change in Kiwi; not only agreements but agreement lines are retrieved as well
- so it will depend not only on the agreements but on the number of agreement lines as well and the related resources
- Felix: would it be worth revisiting the decision to display the agreements when entering the app instead of needing to search first?
- Owen: happy to revisit - added to Implementers page to come back to discuss it
- Felix in chat: How many agreements does it need to get to the point where the app gets slower?
- other issue: number of agreement lines to be displayed, that is set in settings, was ignored
- Sara: when starting FOLIO and Agreements for a moment the E-resources and platforms tab is displayed although, the "Hide internal agreements knowledgebase" is checked in settings and the tabs should not display - after some seconds it changes to the correct display
- Owen cannot give a definitive answer; hide internal KB is changing the UI, no different software; the functionality is still there, but hidden from the UI
- it is possible, that when logging in there is a timing issue where the system has not retrieved the information from the settings
- Owen will follow up with the developers
Warnings for expired licenses on agreements
- expired amendments on agreements → there is an exclamation mark as a warning on the agreement record
- there is no such functionality for an inactive license on an agreement at the moment
- feedback:
- it would be great to replicate the functionality for the amendment - for licenses in a controlling state
- would be helpful to add some kind of a report to the dashboard
- when do we expect to see this kind of warning?
- more focus on license status;
- there could be an active license with end date in the past (PCA example) → information banner would be wanted here
- another example: end dates may not be used until something is done (open ended); so tying to dates is problematic
- warning is important while working on a record; is highly important and would be a good improvement
- additionally reports are really important or at least having the option to search and filter for expired but controlling licenses
- sharable widgets would be great → some planning on this has been done → would need resource to be delivered
- status is primary
- because of the short notice we will revisit the document/questions, then Owen will come up with a proposal
Multi-valued terms for licenses
- sometimes there are single license terms where I would like to record multiple values
- example: forms of authentication/supported authentication types
- questions: are multi-valued terms always pick list type terms
- Jack/UMass: pick lists most pressing, but multi-value free text fields would aslo be helpful
- Julie: Duke would not need multi-valued terms; using y/n and adding an internal note
- Felix: term for applicable law - (e.g. Germany, Switzerland) - if there are 2 countries, which can occur in edge cases, multi-valued terms would be needed
- ERM team needs to get to the technical difficulties that have been encountered
- Owen will come up with a proposal (best structure in data model and best structure presented to users need to align)
Chat
Von Owen Stephens an alle 02:02 PM
It’s me that owes the apology rather than Martina - the delay was all my fault!
Von Felix Hemme (ZBW) an alle 02:05 PM
How many agreements does it need to get to the point where the app gets slower?
Von Sara Colglazier (MHC/5C) an alle 02:08 PM
Before we leave this Settings page, I have a question
Von Felix Hemme (ZBW) an alle 02:13 PM
Thanks!
Von Martina Schildt an alle 02:35 PM
Agree
Von Julie Brannon (she/her) an alle 02:36 PM
Agree
Von Kristin Martin an alle 02:36 PM
agree with focus on controlling
Von Felix Hemme (ZBW) an alle 02:38 PM
https://ux.folio.org/storybook/?path=/story/messagebanner--basic-usage
Von Martina Schildt an alle 02:46 PM
+1 to status being primary
Von Kristin Martin an alle 02:51 PM
Jack, can you give an example?
Von Sara Colglazier (MHC/5C) an alle 02:55 PM
what he was thinking ...
Attendees list
Present | Name | Home Organization |
Aaron Neslin | UMass | |
Abigail Wickes | Duke University Libraries | |
Alaina Deane | Duke | |
Alice Daugherty | University of Alabama | |
Alissa Hafele | Stanford University | |
Alistair Morrison | Johns Hopkins University Libraries | |
Amanda Cornwell | Johns Hopkins University Libraries | |
Amelia Sutton | UMass | |
Andrea Meindl | UB Regensburg | |
Ann-Marie Breaux | EBSCO | |
Annika Schröer | UB Leipzig | |
Annika Zierhut | ||
Anu Moorthy | Duke | |
Anya Arnold | EBSCO | |
x | Beate Aretz | |
x | Benjamin Ahlborn | SuUB Bremen |
Birgit Neumann | ||
Björn Muschall | UB Leipzig | |
Carole Godfrey | EBSCO | |
Catherine Tuohy | Emmanuel College | |
Charlotte Whitt | Index Data | |
x | Claudia Malzer | ULB Darmstadt, Developer |
Dennis Bridges | EBSCO | |
x | Dwayne Swigert | Missouri State University |
x | Emma Raub | Cornell |
Eric Hartnett | Texas A&M University | |
x | Felix Hemme | ZBW Kiel |
Frances Webb | Cornell, Developer | |
Gang Zhou | Shanghai Library | |
Gill Osguthorpe | UX/UI Designer - K-Int | |
Gisela Weinerth | SUB Hamburg | |
Heather MacFarlane | ||
Heather Thoele | Texas A&M University | |
Ian Ibbotson | Developer Lead - K-Int | |
Jack Mulvaney | UMass | |
Jag Goraya | K-Int | |
x | Janet Ewing | Five Colleges / Mount Holyoke College Library |
Jenna Lantermann | Five Colleges / Smith College | |
Jenna Strawbridge | Duke | |
Jessica Harris | Chicago | |
Jir Shin Boey | Missouri State University | |
Joe Sikowitz | Fenway Library Organization | |
Johann Rolschewski | ZDB, Berlin | |
Johanna Radding | Five Colleges / Amherst College | |
x | Julie Brannon | Duke |
Kathleen Berry | UMass Amherst | |
x | Kathleen Norton | Five Colleges / Mount Holyoke College Library |
Katrin Brüggemann | UB Leipzig | |
Khalilah Gambrell | EBSCO | |
Kirstin Kemner-Heek | VZG, Göttingen | |
Kristen Wilson | Index Data | |
x | Kristin Martin | Chicago |
Kyle Banerjee | EBSCO | |
x | Lars-Hakan Herbertsson | Chalmers |
Laura Wright | Cornell University | |
x | Laurenz Kern | Stabi Berlin |
Lindsey Lowry | University of Alabama | |
Luca Lanzillo | Sapienza Library System - Sapienza University of Rome | |
Mara Egherman | EBSCO | |
x | Maria Taylor | |
Marie Widigson | Chalmers | |
Mariyam Thorhira | Johns Hopkins University Libraries | |
Marjorie Snyder | ||
Mark Arnold | Missouri State University | |
Mark Deutsch | Duke | |
Martin Scholz | ||
x | Martina Karlsson | Chalmers |
x | Martina Schildt | VZG, Göttingen |
x | Martina Tumulla | hbz, Cologne |
Mary O’Brien | ||
Matthieu Bordet | DMCultura, Ravenna, Italy | |
Mohammad Alhamad | Missouri State University | |
Molly Driscoll | EBSCO | |
Moritz Horn | VZG, Göttingen | |
x | Nancy Finn | |
x | Nancy Pelis | Five Colleges / Mount Holyoke College Library |
Norma Flores | Texas A&M University | |
Olga Harder | TIB Hannover | |
x | Owen Stephens | Product Owner - Owen Stephens Consulting |
Paul Trumble | Amherst | |
x | Peter Böhm | HeBIS, Frankfurt |
Peter McCracken | Cornell | |
x | Robert Scheier | College of the Holy Cross |
Rüdiger Stratmann | IAI SPK Berlin | |
Sabine Howahl | ULB Darmstadt | |
Sabrina Bayer | UB Regensburg | |
x | Sara Colglazier | Five Colleges / Mount Holyoke College Library |
Sarah Dennis | Texas A&M University | |
Sarah Morgenstern-Einenkel | UB Leipzig | |
Scott Stangroom | UMass | |
Siobhan McManamon | Five Colleges / Smith College | |
Sobha Duvvuri | EBSCO | |
Stephani Kaceli | Cairn University | |
x | Stew MacLehose | University of New England |
x | Susanne Schuster | BSZ Konstanz |
x | Tatjana Clemens | UB Frankfurt |
Theodor Tolstoi | Chalmers, EBSCO | |
Tracy Patton | Missouri State University | |
Virginia Martin | Duke University Libraries | |
Xiaoyan (Yan) Song | NCSU | |
Yvonne Mönkediek | SuUB Bremen |