2022-02-23 - ERM meeting
Meeting Time: 8 am EST / 2 pm CET / 1 pm UK
Call in Number: https://zoom.us/j/995679876
Meeting URL: https://zoom.us/j/995679876 Password needed: please see link below
https://folio-org.atlassian.net/wiki/display/COMMUNITY/FOLIO+Meetings+with+Zoom
ERM SIG Folio Wiki: https://folio-org.atlassian.net/wiki/display/ERMSIG/
Google Folder: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/17X3tr6siZH8iS07kGcjAqUNl01zVrJmB
Terms and definitions: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vue-mbcULpZivWu69a7nAZEdC-H2yXPQqSblbL_0J6U
Slack Channel: # erm-team
Agenda Feb 23rd 2022
Convener: Martina T.
Notetaker: Martina S.
Housekeeping
All: Please edit the attendees list below and indicate when you are there!
Next ERM meeting: March 9th
all questions and topics for the ERM implementers meeting can be posted on this confluence page: https://folio-org.atlassian.net/wiki/x/SABS
Open discuss posts: right now no new posts regarding erm
Agenda items
Development progress - ERM Sprint 134
Implementer's topics - please answer the questions in this document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1j18mC0oIf0HjY9soWDDwJpUVXqzC8jHIKVbOa-CIBaU/edit
Warnings for expired licenses on agreements
Multi-valued terms for licenses
Minutes
Development progress update
Lotus release sprint
there is a Kiwi bugfix release deadline as well
releasing both new updates for Lotus and bugfixes for agreements for Kiwi bugfix release
respobse time in agreements can be very slow in Kiwi if there are many agreements → solution is in testing
Felix in chat: How many agreements does it need to get to the point where the app gets slower?
Owen: there was a change in Kiwi; not only agreements but agreement lines are retrieved as well
so it will depend not only on the agreements but on the number of agreement lines as well and the related resources
Felix: would it be worth revisiting the decision to display the agreements when entering the app instead of needing to search first?
Owen: happy to revisit - added to Implementers page to come back to discuss it
other issue: number of agreement lines to be displayed, that is set in settings, was ignored
Sara: when starting FOLIO and Agreements for a moment the E-resources and platforms tab is displayed although, the "Hide internal agreements knowledgebase" is checked in settings and the tabs should not display - after some seconds it changes to the correct display
Owen cannot give a definitive answer; hide internal KB is changing the UI, no different software; the functionality is still there, but hidden from the UI
it is possible, that when logging in there is a timing issue where the system has not retrieved the information from the settings
Owen will follow up with the developers
Warnings for expired licenses on agreements
expired amendments on agreements → there is an exclamation mark as a warning on the agreement record
there is no such functionality for an inactive license on an agreement at the moment
feedback:
it would be great to replicate the functionality for the amendment - for licenses in a controlling state
would be helpful to add some kind of a report to the dashboard
when do we expect to see this kind of warning?
more focus on license status;
there could be an active license with end date in the past (PCA example) → information banner would be wanted here
another example: end dates may not be used until something is done (open ended); so tying to dates is problematic
warning is important while working on a record; is highly important and would be a good improvement
additionally reports are really important or at least having the option to search and filter for expired but controlling licenses
sharable widgets would be great → some planning on this has been done → would need resource to be delivered
status is primary
because of the short notice we will revisit the document/questions, then Owen will come up with a proposal
Multi-valued terms for licenses
sometimes there are single license terms where I would like to record multiple values
example: forms of authentication/supported authentication types
questions: are multi-valued terms always pick list type terms
Jack/UMass: pick lists most pressing, but multi-value free text fields would aslo be helpful
Julie: Duke would not need multi-valued terms; using y/n and adding an internal note
Felix: term for applicable law - (e.g. Germany, Switzerland) - if there are 2 countries, which can occur in edge cases, multi-valued terms would be needed
ERM team needs to get to the technical difficulties that have been encountered
Owen will come up with a proposal (best structure in data model and best structure presented to users need to align)
Chat
Von Owen Stephens an alle 02:02 PM
It’s me that owes the apology rather than Martina - the delay was all my fault!
Von Felix Hemme (ZBW) an alle 02:05 PM
How many agreements does it need to get to the point where the app gets slower?
Von Sara Colglazier (MHC/5C) an alle 02:08 PM
Before we leave this Settings page, I have a question
Von Felix Hemme (ZBW) an alle 02:13 PM
Thanks!
Von Martina Schildt an alle 02:35 PM
Agree
Von Julie Brannon (she/her) an alle 02:36 PM
Agree
Von Kristin Martin an alle 02:36 PM
agree with focus on controlling
Von Felix Hemme (ZBW) an alle 02:38 PM
https://ux.folio.org/storybook/?path=/story/messagebanner--basic-usage
Von Martina Schildt an alle 02:46 PM
+1 to status being primary
Von Kristin Martin an alle 02:51 PM
Jack, can you give an example?
Von Sara Colglazier (MHC/5C) an alle 02:55 PM
what he was thinking ...
Attendees list
Present | Name | Home Organization |
| Aaron Neslin | UMass |
| Abigail Wickes | Duke University Libraries |
| Alaina Deane | Duke |
| Alice Daugherty | University of Alabama |
| Alissa Hafele | Stanford University |
| Alistair Morrison | Johns Hopkins University Libraries |
| Amanda Cornwell | Johns Hopkins University Libraries |
| Amelia Sutton | UMass |
| Andrea Meindl | UB Regensburg |
| Ann-Marie Breaux | EBSCO |
| Annika Schröer | UB Leipzig |
| Annika Zierhut |
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| Anu Moorthy | Duke |
| Anya Arnold | EBSCO |
x | Beate Aretz |
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x | Benjamin Ahlborn | SuUB Bremen |
| Birgit Neumann |
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| Björn Muschall | UB Leipzig |
| Carole Godfrey | EBSCO |
| Catherine Tuohy | Emmanuel College |
| Charlotte Whitt | Index Data |
x | Claudia Malzer | ULB Darmstadt, Developer |
| Dennis Bridges | EBSCO |
x | Dwayne Swigert | Missouri State University |
x | Emma Raub | Cornell |
| Eric Hartnett | Texas A&M University |
x | Felix Hemme | ZBW Kiel |
| Frances Webb | Cornell, Developer |
| Gang Zhou | Shanghai Library |
| Gill Osguthorpe | UX/UI Designer - K-Int |
| Gisela Weinerth | SUB Hamburg |
| Heather MacFarlane |
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| Heather Thoele | Texas A&M University |
| Ian Ibbotson | Developer Lead - K-Int |
| Jack Mulvaney | UMass |
| Jag Goraya | K-Int |
x | Janet Ewing | Five Colleges / Mount Holyoke College Library |
| Jenna Lantermann | Five Colleges / Smith College |
| Jenna Strawbridge | Duke |
| Jessica Harris | Chicago |
| Jir Shin Boey | Missouri State University |
| Joe Sikowitz | Fenway Library Organization |
| Johann Rolschewski | ZDB, Berlin |
| Johanna Radding | Five Colleges / Amherst College |
x | Julie Brannon | Duke |
| Kathleen Berry | UMass Amherst |
x | Kathleen Norton | Five Colleges / Mount Holyoke College Library |
| Katrin Brüggemann | UB Leipzig |
| Khalilah Gambrell | EBSCO |
| Kirstin Kemner-Heek | VZG, Göttingen |
| Kristen Wilson | Index Data |
x | Kristin Martin | Chicago |
| Kyle Banerjee | EBSCO |
x | Lars-Hakan Herbertsson | Chalmers |
| Laura Wright | Cornell University |
x | Laurenz Kern | Stabi Berlin |
| Lindsey Lowry | University of Alabama |
| Luca Lanzillo | Sapienza Library System - Sapienza University of Rome |
| Mara Egherman | EBSCO |
x | Maria Taylor |
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| Marie Widigson | Chalmers |
| Mariyam Thorhira | Johns Hopkins University Libraries |
| Marjorie Snyder |
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| Mark Arnold | Missouri State University |
| Mark Deutsch | Duke |
| Martin Scholz |
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x | Martina Karlsson | Chalmers |
x | Martina Schildt | VZG, Göttingen |
x | Martina Tumulla | hbz, Cologne |
| Mary O’Brien |
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| Matthieu Bordet | DMCultura, Ravenna, Italy |
| Mohammad Alhamad | Missouri State University |
| Molly Driscoll | EBSCO |
| Moritz Horn | VZG, Göttingen |
x | Nancy Finn |
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x | Nancy Pelis | Five Colleges / Mount Holyoke College Library |
| Norma Flores | Texas A&M University |
| Olga Harder | TIB Hannover |
x | Owen Stephens | Product Owner - Owen Stephens Consulting |
| Paul Trumble | Amherst |
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