Date

15 Jun 2022

Housekeeping

next meeting would be on June 20th, which is Juneteenth and a public holiday in the US
- meeting will be cancelled
Update and outcome of Cross-app data sync working group in PC on June 16 - 9:30 am ET
- worked on possible solution pattern for use cased gathered by AI: Cross-app data sync use cases
- Zoom meeting link: https://zoom.us/j/867230970 - folio-lsp
- Agenda: 2022-06-16 Product Council Meeting notes

Discussion items

Implementers topics | Cross-app: UX/UI
- Review tables across all Apps
  - MCLs
  - Request to have frozen headings on MCLs
- Modals or other popups need to move–should not be fixed in place on the screen
  - ability to change size of modal
- Warning Modals needed when deleting any record in any App when it is the source of truth for other records
- Wildcards (truncation marks) need to be standardized across all Apps
- How Dates are formatted and entered
- Spaces handling

Minutes

MCL = Multi column list
Sara walks through the first use case: when there are many lines and columns on an MCLs it would be helpful to fix column headers and the first row
freezing or pinning headings makes sense to the group
existing solution to help keep overview over MCL: there is the option in result lists to decide what will display; that could be an option to solve this as well; is used in some MCLs on orders already
hide columns would not be a solution for all use cases, because in many cases the user needs to see all columns
there are generally challenges in navigating a long list
John Coburn in chat: https://folio-org.github.io/stripes-components/?path=/story/multicolumnlist--max-height-virtualized
Khalilah: we could display columns based on filters
Khalilah in chat: I think we should support ability to filter such lists too along with allow one to change lists.
Martina S in chat: +1
we should align the MCLs across apps and have a consistent design
Kristin: export option helps as well; you can do more in excel; e.g. export is available for some MCLs in orders
- export does not help in every situation; but would be nice as an additional option
Zak: as far as freezing the 1st column is concerned, it is difficult to know what the height of each list should be
Charlotte in chat: Will the change of the list be per session, or something the user can customize?
- user preferences
Kimie in chat: JFYI - normally if the accordion contains a list of items, there is a badge with a number showing to the right of the accordion. https://folio-org.github.io/stripes-components/?path=/story/badge--basic-usage
Gill in chat: In some cases it seems like a full search and sort for the sub-MCLS is needed. An option to pop out a sub-MCL into out into its own full screen window with search and filter options.
- the group is in favour of this option
there is no column pinning possible at the moment
- idea: maybe the user could try to trigger on its own
potential first steps
- display MCL full screen
- freeze headers
- Khalilah wants Kimie to look over
additional use case: it would be helpful to have line numbers in result lists as MCLs
- important to have in mind that numbers are usually independant from the line content
- first line will always be #1
- there should be an indicator that it is a row number; because there are some exceptions where it is not
additionally, numbers could give an ancor for clicking to see more details
- you can define columns as never hide, this would be needed for the column with the clickable numbers
group agrees that export option for MCLS would be helpful
- Kristin in chat: Maybe that would be easier if we pop out the MCL into a different window too.
- export all data should be easy
- there may be differences between MCLs that show all results and multi page MCLs - there is the option to have some patterns
- in general, resorting should go along with repageing
sorting of table headers should be available consistently across apps
- it would be helpful to have a sort indicator, that indicates that a column is sortable
Khalilah in chat: We need to consider two patterns 1.) View lists only and 2.) View lists and take action on the lists
the group will continue discussions in 2 weeks, on 29 Jun 2022

Chat

18:02:59 Von Martina Schildt | VZG an Alle:
Link to the agenda: https://folio-org.atlassian.net/wiki/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4098002
18:05:02 Von Owen Stephens an Alle:
Sounds incredibly cool though!
18:07:39 Von Laura Daniels an Alle:
I will not be working
18:07:44 Von Kristin Martin an Alle:
I'll be away
18:07:46 Von Owen Stephens an Alle:
I'll be here
18:07:50 Von Maura Byrne an Alle:
I can if necessary
18:10:11 Von Owen Stephens an Alle:
Multi-column List
18:10:19 Von Jana Freytag | VZG an Alle:
🙏
18:10:44 Von Laura Daniels an Alle:
as opposed to medial collateral ligament (the only ligament in the knee that will heal itself when torn)
18:14:12 Von Dung-Lan Chen an Alle:
It depends on what you are trying to do/look at
18:14:22 Von Martina Schildt | VZG an Alle:
+1 Dung-Lan
18:15:06 Von Lloyd (Marmot Library Network) an Alle:
We would never use copy number. I would like to hide that.
18:19:10 Von JCoburn an Alle:
https://folio-org.github.io/stripes-components/?path=/story/multicolumnlist--max-height-virtualized
18:20:44 Von Martina Schildt | VZG an Alle:
I see you Zak, you are next ;)
18:21:25 Von Kimie Matsudo Kester an Alle:
Freezing or pinning the column headers makes sense to me 👍
18:21:33 Von Martina Schildt | VZG an Alle:
same here +1
18:21:38 Von Maura Byrne an Alle:
+1
18:21:43 Von Kristin Martin an Alle:
+!
18:21:45 Von Laura Daniels an Alle:
+1
18:22:05 Von Charlotte Whitt an Alle:
Yes, maybe an eye symbol next to the header label.
18:23:15 Von Khalilah Gambrell an Alle:
I think we should support ability to filter such lists too along with allow one to change lists.
18:23:23 Von Brooks Travis an Alle:
Yeah, that problem didn't even occur to me, as a trackpad user with side-scrolling.
18:23:41 Von Martina Schildt | VZG an Alle:
+ 1 @khalilah
18:24:29 Von Charlotte Whitt an Alle:
Will the change of the list be per session, or something the user can customize
18:25:05 Von Kimie Matsudo Kester an Alle:
JFYI - normally if the accordion contains a list of items, there is a badge with a number showing to the right of the accordion. https://folio-org.github.io/stripes-components/?path=/story/badge--basic-usage
18:28:54 Von Maura Byrne an Alle:
Does the list of columns show up better if the user closes the “Search and filter" frame?
18:29:29 Von Brooks Travis an Alle:
Could we consider a standard full-screen list view that could be invoked for all MCLs?
18:29:45 Von Maura Byrne an Alle:
+1 Brooks
18:30:11 Von Lloyd (Marmot Library Network) an Alle:
+1 Brooks
18:30:58 Von Khalilah Gambrell an Alle:
What other problems do folks have with viewing/navigating long lists on a detail record?
18:31:21 Von Laura Daniels an Alle:
+1 to Zak's point about hiding and forgetting that one has hidden something
18:31:44 Von Laura Daniels an Alle:
I often forget I've selected facets for my search!
18:34:24 Von Gill Osguthorpe an Alle:
In some cases it seems like a full search and sort for the sub-MCLS is needed. An option to pop out a sub-MCL into out into its own full screen window with search and filter options.
18:35:07 Von Owen Stephens an Alle:
That seems like a nice idea
18:35:50 Von Martina Schildt | VZG an Alle:
+1 Gill
18:35:57 Von Khalilah Gambrell an Alle:
@Gil - eholdings has a search/filter within a list feature.
18:36:23 Von Charlotte Whitt an Alle:
I like the full screen option too
18:37:07 Von Charlotte Whitt an Alle:
View in full screen as a temporary view, and then you can click out of that, and will be back in the three pane layout
18:37:23 Von Maura Byrne an Alle:
+1 Charlotte
18:40:28 Von Gill Osguthorpe an Alle:
@Khalilah 👍🏼I've seen the filter for eHoldings, it's nice.
18:46:16 Von Lloyd (Marmot Library Network) an Alle:
+1 for line numbers
18:53:17 Von Kristin Martin an Alle:
Maybe that would be easier if we pop out the MCL into a different window too.
18:55:47 Von Khalilah Gambrell an Alle:
We need to consider two patterns 1.) View lists only and 2.) View lists and take action on the lists
19:00:31 Von Charlotte Whitt an Alle:
Yes, sounds great Martina
19:00:42 Von Dung-Lan Chen an Alle:
Allow user to set how many records from the result list can be displayed before one keeps clicking on "next" button to get to see more?!
19:00:54 Von Owen Stephens an Alle:
For me as a PO I have to admit it's easy to overlook including making each column in the MCL sortable

Attendees

Present	Name	Home Organization
	Ann-Marie Breaux	EBSCO
x	Brooks Travis	EBSCO
x	Charlotte Whitt	Index Data
regrets	Dennis Bridges	EBSCO
x	Dung-Lan Chen	Skidmore College
x	Gill Osguthorpe	UX/UI Designer - K-Int
	Heather McMillan Thoele	TAMU
	Ian Ibbotson	Developer Lead - K-Int
x	Jana Freytag	VZG, Göttingen
x	Khalilah Gambrell	EBSCO
regrets	Kirstin Kemner-Heek	VZG, Göttingen
x	Kristin Martin	Chicago
x	Laura Daniels	Cornell
x	Lloyd Chittenden	Marmot Library Network
x	Martina Schildt	VZG, Göttingen
x	Martina Tumulla	hbz, Cologne
x	Maura Byrne	Chicago
	Mike Gorrell	Index Data
x	Owen Stephens	Product Owner - Owen Stephens Consulting
	Patty Wanninger	EBSCO
x	Sara Colglazier	Five Colleges / Mount Holyoke College Library
x	Kimie Kester	EBSCO
x	John Coburn	EBSCO
x	Zak Burke	EBSCO

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