2022-05-09 Meeting notes: Field based permissions
Date
May 9, 2022
Housekeeping
Next topics
Permissions
field based → walk through where needed?
SIG reps and PO
example: specific perms to edit the barcode field
view and edit vs. only view e.g. source record (quickmarc) - there seems to be a JIRA
would be UI-based permissions
Brooks: better-focused on managed customized UIs?
Owen: would be good to undertsand the use cases
ERM use case: it would be nice if our selectors could edit "renewal priority" in Agreements, but nothing else, since they are the ones who decide whether they want to renew an item, but otherwise they should not be allowed to edit
idea to have a specific action
Implementers topics: Implementers topics | Cross-app
Discussion items
Feedback on field based permissions in ERM
Feedback on field based permissions in MM
Lookup functionality across apps - if time allows
Minutes
ERM field based perms feedback
already existing: when linking an organization; to view login credentials for the related interface(s) the user needs a separate permission; same as in organizations app
one specific example was raised additionally: it would be nice if our selectors could edit "renewal priority" in Agreements, but nothing else, since they are the ones who decide whether they want to renew an item, but otherwise they should not be allowed to edit
Owen's idea - needs more exploration though: rather than having a field based permission for the latter use case, rather have an action (e.g. "set renewal status")
with a drop-down maybe to select the status
this action would have a permission allowing it or not as well
User would not need to open the whole record with perm only to touch one field; the action would reveal potentially only one field
Maura in chat: +1 Owen
Laura: similar need and thoughts in MM
Owen: different approach to basic way that perms work in FOLIO
Dennis: in general, that seems consistent with e.g. close orders
when opening the order; the status is changed; in backend there is a set of logic running (e.g. create encumbrance in finance app)
actions are protected by separate permissions (separate from general edit permission)
API call could bypass the restrictions
Maura: from a user perspective this is very nice
unconscious errors could not happen
information that is needed is easier and quicker to find and actions are easier and quicker to take
Laura: there is an ongoing confusion between notes app and notes (free text fields on the records)
Owen: for actions that are taken as part of workflows there is a related workflow
"add notes" as with notes helper app is different; there are separate perms as well
approach to field based perms need communication with broader audience
MM field based perms feedback
Laura in Slack: the desire was to have permissions to edit just one field, e.g., notes, for users who had no other edit permissions. Use cases were given for orders & items, but likely pertain to other record types in other apps as well.
Next steps: invite SMEs who have given the use cases to walk us through
Chat
Attendees
Present | Name | Home Organization |
|---|---|---|
| Ann-Marie Breaux | EBSCO |
| Brooks Travis | EBSCO |
| Charlotte Whitt | Index Data |
x | Dennis Bridges | EBSCO |
x | Dung-Lan Chen | Skidmore College |
| Gill Osguthorpe | UX/UI Designer - K-Int |
x | Heather McMillan Thoele | TAMU |
| Ian Ibbotson | Developer Lead - K-Int |
x | Jana Freytag | VZG, Göttingen |
| Khalilah Gambrell | EBSCO |
| Kirstin Kemner-Heek | VZG, Göttingen |
x | Kristin Martin | Chicago |
x | Laura Daniels | Cornell |
| Lloyd Chittenden | Marmot Library Network |
x | Martina Schildt | VZG, Göttingen |
x | Martina Tumulla | hbz, Cologne |
x | Maura Byrne | Chicago |
| Mike Gorrell | Index Data |
x | Owen Stephens | Product Owner - Owen Stephens Consulting |
| Patty Wanninger | EBSCO |