2022-05-18 Meeting notes: Cdl
Date
Housekeeping
Discussion items
- Controlled digital lending (cdl) process and workflows
Minutes
- this came up especially due to covid and circumstances
- Digital reps of a physical book
- cannot check out both
- what is the best way to model in Inventory
- what is the relationship between the digital and the physical item - need to be associated at the same instance (they are the same instance)
- maybe loaning the physical resource to some kind of dummy account
- may not correspond to a single digital loan
- Owen in chat: We have (IMO) still not managed to successfully bridge the Print/Electronic divide in Folio. Inventory has some aspects, as does Orders, and then there's Agreements and eHoldings - and these things are not connected right now
It seems to me that CDL is another challenge to this Print/Electronic aspects - Owen in chat: So I see parallels with the fact that a journal can be owned by a library in both print and electronic forms, and these can be obtained through a single order / acq process
Andy in chat: Not initially, anyway.
(Referring to hosting the digital object in FOLIO.) - Charlotte: is item status something that can be used
- system needs to understand that there is a relationship
- Owen in chat: But currently we have the electronic form of the journal potentially recorded in both Agreements and/or eHoldings and also in Inventory - the different records fulfilling
The 'circulation' aspect is obviously different - Ian: important to draw the line between CDL and library management system
- Owen in chat: But I wonder if this is an opportunity for us to step back and consider how we really think resource management should work here
But maybe that's just too big - David in chat: https://controlleddigitallending.org/whitepaper
White paper on CDL - Kristin: would it be a high legal risk if the physical is checked out although the digital rep is also checked out; different institutions have different levels of legal requests
- needs 2 systems that need to communicate back and forth
- Laura: the bibliographic representation should be separate from the solution, i.e., it should work whether the digital copy is described separately or on the same instance
- Owen: there is something workflow related; action permissions could be very powerful here
- big issue: link between electonic and print; what is the philosophy; CDL might be a good use case to test that against
- David: +1
- Charlotte: having a decision diagram might be helpful
- Ian: it will not be one decision diagram; but diagram could help
- Charlotte: Also the circulation statistic aspect is good to get a better understanding of
- Usage stats: get away from sequestered physical items and circulation stats
- storage platform for cdl will most likely live outside FOLIO; need something to tie to CDL item
- Andrea agrees in chat
- Laura in chat: is the way FOLIO interacts with Caiasoft, for example, for remote storage, a useful model? - in the way they talk to each other
- Andy in chat: I think this is exactly what we've been talking about: FOLIO/Caiasoft are still working with a SINGLE item. We're talking about TWO items where only ONE can be available at a time.
- Kristin: CDL item will impact the status of the physical item
- Owen: I was going to ask - is the CDL always the whole resource, or can it be for a portion of the resource? (e.g. a book chapter rhather than the whole book)?
- it can be both
- David: CDL is interesting from a consortia level as well; instead of ILL release digital copy
- some institutions use "remove completely" model
- Owen: work level resolution service could be powerful; idea was already discussed with entity management group
- Andrea in chat: Please keep in mind this is not necessarily a one to one relationship. You could have multiple copies of a printed work which you would only have one digital copy of. Loans could be for any combination of print and digital up to the number of owned copies.
- Ian: better connect on volume issue level; wanting to avoid one-to-one relationship
- Dung-Lan: analogy to coins; each having 2 sides
- can we use the temporary loan type to use for that switch between the 2 sides of the coin/digital and physical
- David: need to include the item status
- Owen: So actually taking the coin analogy - the number of coins equals the number of potential loans, not the number of physical copies
And each coin could be either a physical loan or an electronic loan? - Kristin: only one "side" can be used at the same time
- Owen: licensing could at some point allow 2 digital loans per physical copy; should not "pain ourselves into a corner" when designig a model
- Martina S will stay in touch qith CDL group for further steps/communication
Chat
Attendees
Present | Name | Home Organization |
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Ann-Marie Breaux | EBSCO | |
Brooks Travis | EBSCO | |
x | Charlotte Whitt | Index Data |
x | Dennis Bridges | EBSCO |
x | Dung-Lan Chen | Skidmore College |
Gill Osguthorpe | UX/UI Designer - K-Int | |
x | Heather McMillan Thoele | TAMU |
x | Ian Ibbotson | Developer Lead - K-Int |
x | Jana Freytag | VZG, Göttingen |
Khalilah Gambrell | EBSCO | |
Kirstin Kemner-Heek | VZG, Göttingen | |
x | Kristin Martin | Chicago |
x | Laura Daniels | Cornell |
x | Lloyd Chittenden | Marmot Library Network |
x | Martina Schildt | VZG, Göttingen |
x | Martina Tumulla | hbz, Cologne |
x | Maura Byrne | Chicago |
Mike Gorrell | Index Data | |
x | Owen Stephens | Product Owner - Owen Stephens Consulting |
Patty Wanninger | EBSCO | |
x | Erin Weller | Michigan State University |
x | David Bottorff | Chicago |
x | Andy Horbal | |
x | Peter Murray | |
x | Beth Chenette | |
x | Laszlo Jakusovszky | |
x | Andrea Loigman |