2022-06-29 Meeting notes: Implementers topics: UX/UI
Date
Jun 29, 2022
Housekeeping
Discussion items
Updates on topics from last call?
Review tables across all Apps
MCLs
Request to have frozen headings on MCLs
Continue: Implementers topics | Cross-app: UX/UI
Modals or other popups need to move–should not be fixed in place on the screen
ability to change size of modal
Warning Modals needed when deleting any record in any App when it is the source of truth for other records
Wildcards (truncation marks) need to be standardized across all Apps
How Dates are formatted and entered
Spaces handling
Possible: Look-up functionality across apps
Minutes
Multi column lists (MCL)
Topics | Notes | AI SIG status | Automatic | JIRA ticket |
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MCL: Freeze headings |
| Agreed |
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MCL: Freeze 1st column (where checkboxes Freeze first X) |
| Agreed with exceptions | NO | Spike needed @John Coburn |
MCL: Sortable table headers |
| Agreed | YES?
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MCL: Line numbers |
| Agreed |
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MCL: Search & filter |
| Agreed |
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MCL: export lists |
| Agreed needs confirmation |
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New topics on Jul 27, 2022
Topics | Notes | AI SIG status | JIRA ticket |
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Modals: movable |
| TBD |
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Modals: size |
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Modals: Warning modals |
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Modals: Shortcut for ENTER key |
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Wildcards: standardized |
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Date formatting |
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Spaces handling |
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Search: lowercase vs. cap |
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Chat
18:02:49 Von Laura Daniels an Alle:
Kimie, in the quickMARC meeting earlier today you were called brilliant!
18:03:11 Von Kimie Matsudo Kester an Alle:
Ah, thank you 😍
18:06:11 Von Kimie Matsudo Kester an Alle:
vertically vs horizontal
18:17:23 Von Kristin Martin an Alle:
Isn't there already side-to-side scrolling now?
18:18:30 Von Charlotte Whitt an Alle:
Yes, the item list in the top of the instance in the third pane
18:18:33 Von Zak Burke an Alle:
Yes, there is, but we didn't always have scrollbars in place, so it hasn't always been available to folks without trackpads. We are working on making sure scrollbars are _always_ present when scrolling happens.
18:23:19 Von Owen Stephens an Alle:
Some of these MCLs are basiscally data tables
18:23:41 Von Owen Stephens an Alle:
I don't know if that’s the original intention of the development of the MCL
18:23:48 Von Laura Daniels an Alle:
I sometimes select multiple objects and then drag them...
18:24:07 Von Laura Daniels an Alle:
yes, drag and drop is great but we need a non-mouse way to do this
18:25:21 Von Gill Osguthorpe an Alle:
We have a drag and drop in the Dashboard too. Maybe a third approach?
18:27:16 Von Charlotte Whitt an Alle:
Contributors are sortable in the Inventory Result lits
18:30:56 Von Charlotte Whitt an Alle:
I hear you too, Sara
18:31:22 Von Dung-Lan Chen an Alle:
Yes to what Sara described!
18:31:27 Von Kimie Matsudo Kester an Alle:
In MARC authority, we had to put Sort by in the Actions button because the primary sort is by Relevance.
18:32:09 Von Charlotte Whitt an Alle:
Especially try Bugfest Lotus - Holdings HRID ho126544
18:33:40 Von Sara Colglazier (MHC/5C) an Alle:
Just wondering--if not a MCL thing then for the future--just wondering: like in a spreadsheet can I sort on Column A and then on Column B in conjunction
18:34:11 Von Charlotte Whitt an Alle:
In Inventory, there is MCL in the records, where the headings are not set to be sortable
18:39:19 Von Kimie Matsudo Kester an Alle:
If we add line numbers, and then the user drags and drops a row, will the numbers be able to update at the moment of the drag and drop?
18:40:25 Von Kimie Matsudo Kester an Alle:
Having line numbers makes a lot of sense to me. But because it is soo basic, it makes me wonder if there is a reason we did not do it from the beginning. I cannot remember.
18:41:19 Von Kimie Matsudo Kester an Alle:
ok, thanks
18:42:42 Von Charlotte Whitt an Alle:
UXPROD-1625, and another one is UXPROD-3178
18:43:41 Von Kimie Matsudo Kester an Alle:
Yes!
18:44:32 Von Kimie Matsudo Kester an Alle:
I agree with Zak, to click something like a title, not the line number
18:45:57 Von Kimie Matsudo Kester an Alle:
Some apps use the new MCL but not every app has updated
18:57:48 Von Charlotte Whitt an Alle:
In Inventory, we also didn’t expect 15000+ items. So I hear you Owen
18:57:52 Von Laura Daniels an Alle:
This points to something I like about FOLIO -- when we get it wrong, we admit it and work toward making it better!
18:58:10 Von Charlotte Whitt an Alle:
+ 1 Laura
18:58:11 Von Laura Daniels an Alle:
(this is not necessarily the case with other products I use)
18:59:09 Von Owen Stephens an Alle:
I remember being told that people wanted to sort sets of 10,000 + records in an OPAC. I still don't get it really but I have to accept that sometimes people legitimately want things that I don't fully understand 🙂
19:00:06 Von Martina Schildt an Alle:
I would like to continue this discussion on July 27th - does that fit for all?
19:00:07 Von Owen Stephens an Alle:
I think something that would be really interesting to dig into is the two MCL scenarios - all data in front end vs paginating from backend
19:00:45 Von Owen Stephens an Alle:
I suspect we might do ourselves a favour by making it clearer to the user that these things are not the same
19:01:36 Von Owen Stephens an Alle:
Thanks so much everyone
Attendees
Present | Name | Home Organization |
|---|---|---|
| Ann-Marie Breaux | EBSCO |
| Brooks Travis | EBSCO |
x | Charlotte Whitt | Index Data |
| Dennis Bridges | EBSCO |
x | Dung-Lan Chen | Skidmore College |
x | Gill Osguthorpe | UX/UI Designer - K-Int |
x | Heather McMillan Thoele | TAMU |
| Ian Ibbotson | Developer Lead - K-Int |
| Jana Freytag | VZG, Göttingen |
| Khalilah Gambrell | EBSCO |
| Kirstin Kemner-Heek | VZG, Göttingen |
x | Kristin Martin | Chicago |
x | Laura Daniels | Cornell |
x | Lloyd Chittenden | Marmot Library Network |
x | Martina Schildt | VZG, Göttingen |
x | Martina Tumulla | hbz, Cologne |
x | Maura Byrne | Chicago |
| Mike Gorrell | Index Data |
x | Owen Stephens | Product Owner - Owen Stephens Consulting |
| Patty Wanninger | EBSCO |
x | Sara Colglazier | Five Colleges / Mount Holyoke College Library |
x | Kimie Kester | EBSCO |
x | John Coburn | EBSCO |
x | Zak Burke | EBSCO |