2022-04-06 Meeting notes

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1 minScribeAll

Zak Burke followed by Marc Johnson (since Jeremy Huff filled in last week)

5 min

Review outstanding action itemsAll
10-15 minTCR Board Review

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TCR-9:

  • From last week: Craig McNally suggest that a wiki be created for the translation subgroup, and Zak Burke agrees.  
10-15 min

Technical Council Sub Groups Updates

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  • New module tech eval: Craig McNally and Jeremy Huff continue to chip away at this. Looking at acceptance criteria found many criteria that should be backed by a wiki-page that describes the specific version requirements for specific FOLIO flower releases in order to be able to assess fitness of a given module at a given time. Jeremy Huff also working to identify to criteria that are important but not explicitly technical. Will check in next week. 
  • Tech eval subgroup: Chulin Meng : will work on getting i18n RFC ready to present to the TC next week.
    • Radhakrishnan Gopalakrishnan : how operational does the RFC need to be? e.g. there are jillions of i18n-related Jira tickets.
      • Craig McNally : want to separate decision from implementation; don't think we need a UXPROD to have an RFC.
      • Marc Johnson : link RFCs and UXPRODs if possible, but should not be a requirement, otherwise we're saying TC can only discuss things that are have already been decided. It would take tons of stuff off the table. 
      • Jeremy Huff : module eval process, esp if it applies to existing modules, gives us an avenue to push on direction of development. 
    • Radhakrishnan Gopalakrishnan : trying to winnow UXPRODs into the RFC; what level of detail is necessary?
      • Marc Johnson this feels a bit upside down; given we have already made a decision about server-side i18n and this was going to be a pilot, then we're no longer using the RFC to gauge feedback. To me, RFC is a policy decision: e.g. here this should describe behaviour but not necessarily implementation. Discussion of tradeoffs could be valuable.
      • Radhakrishnan Gopalakrishnan : that would mean this particular RFC should be limited to "respect the HTTP request's accept-language header"
      • Marc Johnson : yep
      • Craig McNally : discussion of tradeoffs, design notes, etc are valuable here. Devil is in the details: shouldn't be too high-level, shouldn't get lost in the details. 
      • Jeremy Huff : RFC is a PR, so this can be iterative. 
      • Craig McNally : let's send this back to the subgroup to grapple with this
  • TC goals and objectives: Tod Olson : seems hard to look out further than 12 mos at present. Current goals:
    • publish tech roadmap
    • publish architectural blueprint
    • there is a feeling that some tech decisions really need to be made WRT tech debt management
      • okapi: separate concerns of discovery and acting as a gateway
      • dependency management is a major pain point
    • ongoing conversations with Jeremy Huff , VBar . 12-month goal: articulate frustrations (including above), discuss with folks in tech-lead rolls to identify/articulate other concerns and how to address them; this becomes a driver to describe what we want to do over the next year. 
      • goal: have an architectural vision by WOLFCon, maybe even having concrete proposals to present to community
    • Jeremy Huff : level of detail for any given goal needs to be sufficient for spinning up a subgroup. don't want to get into nitty-gritty here. Lots of priorities; gotta rank 'em and figure out what is actionable in a given timeframe.
    • Craig McNally : can this group start that prioritization and bring it back to the full TC for feedback?
    • Ingolf Kuss : include me in this subgroup please, and be sure to solicit feedback from sys-ops. Maybe try to get a short-list of priorities? 
    • Tod Olson : so, we have a process goal to generate this list. 
    • Craig McNally : reviewing the subgroup's charge: wiki page refines the goals; discussions are ongoing; incorporation of arch-blueprint is less clear. Tod Olson has become clear we need to update the blueprint
      • Jeremy Huff navigating relationship between blueprint and goals has been challenging
      • Tod Olson blue print is old-ish now; needs to be revisited to make sure it is still the right blueprint
      • Jeremy Huff subgroup should facilitate discussions with stakeholders to assess their priorities, pain-points in order to assess the community's feeling WRT tech debt
    • Tod Olson : want to facilitate discussions to make sure we have buy-in on these goals
  • i18n: Zak Burke : no progress thus no update
  • FOLIO scope/cross-council: no progress expected before end of April
  • controlling AWS hosting: Peter Murray : haven't completed a draft of the charge yet; will aim to post a draft to Slack this week. 
  • Craig McNally : note to all: would be really helpful to have end dates/accurate check-in dates for these groups!
  • tech doc: Radhakrishnan Gopalakrishnan : no great traction so far; posted to Slack#documentation-wg
  • Marc Johnson : during the release window (which we are in at present) many of folks have basically no spare time. Many: yep. 
5-10 minWOLF Con Planning
  • Suggestion from last week:  Cross-Council subgroup to organize a discussion of New Module Evaluation?  
    • Marc Johnson : some discussion on Slack but unlikely this group can do enough quickly enough for the TC given current scheduling issues
    • Craig McNally : so ... maybe describe what TC currently has in place, or maybe it morphs into something more focused on end-to-end process. feels like it's worth a session regardless.
  • Outstanding question from last week:  Philip Robinson Asks if the TC have the capacity to address all the topics we have already been made accountable for.
    • Craig McNally : do we even know what these topics are? it feels like we do not. Plan to revisit at next week's meeting.
  • Volunteers to help plan, organize and/or run specific sessions, etc.?
    • Jakub Skoczen is planning on reviewing the topics/docs and claiming /something/ – specifics TBD.
  • Are all TC members planning to attend?  In person? Virtually?
    • Zak Burke : there will be a TC election before WOLFCon; we should alert new members they should plan to attend WOLFCon
5 minUpdates from PC?
  • Zak Burke : no updates from PC to TC in the first half of last week's meeting

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