2024-05-15 Meeting notes: Inventory - Agreements interactions

 Date

May 15, 2024

Housekeeping

Convener: @Martina Schildt

Note taker: @Tara Barnett

Recording: https://recordings.openlibraryfoundation.org/folio/app-interaction-group-wednesdays/2024-05-15T12:00/

 Participants

  • @Martina Schildt

  • @Tara Barnett

  • @Maura Byrne

  • @Sara Colglazier

  • @Dung-Lan Chen

  • @Lloyd Chittenden

  • @Laura Daniels

  • @Heather McMillan

  • @Kimberly Pamplin

  • @Amanda Ros

  • @Owen Stephens

  • @Charlotte Whitt

 Goals

  • Review mock-ups related to Inventory - Agreements interactions

 Discussion topics

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5 min

Announcements

@Martina Schildt

 

5 min

BELA upate

@Amanda Ros

  • Wolfcon: Several libraries will present on their experiences using Bulk Edit and/or Lists.

  • There was discussion about bulk editing MARC fields and whether to overwrite protected fields. The group agreed that protected fields should be honored unless there is an explicit indication to overwrite them.

  • Question: Would AI be interested in a UAT session for providing feedback on BELA releases?

 

55 min

Inventory and Agreements interactions

@Charlotte Whitt

@Sara Colglazier

All

  • mockups by Charlotte | use cases by Sara

Link to slidedeck:

 

Notes

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03:22

Housekeeping

  • Material Type Discussion

    • We will move our discussion of whether or not material type should stay mandatory in Inventory to June 3rd. Ryan Taylor is not available for our original proposed date. In general this works for members of the SIG--Martina will check with Kristen Martin that June 3rd works.

    • Martina has created a wiki page to collect arguments on this subject: Material type: optional or required Please add use cases as discussions continue in SIGs.

  • Review of Upcoming Meetings

    • Martina will be out May 20th. Laura will convene. We will be discussing custom fields in Inventory.

06:45

BELA Updates

  • Libraries will be presenting on their experiences using Bulk Edit and the Lists app at WOLFcon. They will be presenting from different FOLIO releases.

  • BELA discussed whether or not protected MARC fields should be honored in bulk edit. The BELA group decided that protected fields will be honored unless there is an explicit indication to overwrite them.

  • Amanda asks whether or not the cross app SIG would be interested in participating in a User Acceptance Testing (UAT) session for BELA.

    • Martina asks what form this would take. Amanda says that we could use an App Interaction meeting to go over this with Amanda and Magda. We would go through steps in the app with the goal of eliciting feedback and questions.

    • Hearing someone's thought process out loud can be valuable when doing this in a group setting. Charlotte and Laura agree that this is valuable.

    • Martina says we will schedule a call at a time that Magda can join.

    • Sara asks if Reserves will participate in the testing? At many institutions, Reserves relies heavily on Bulk Edit. Reserves falls under Resource Access. Martina will ask Jana if she is interested, and if so, Jana will get in touch with Amanda.

12:24

Inventory and Agreements Interactions: The Proposal

27:00

Inventory and Agreements Interactions: Discussion

  • URL vs UUID

    • Owen asks why this is done with a URL rather than a UUID. Should we use the "add" functionality similar to other apps?

      • The typical way to create inter-app links in FOLIO is to store a UUID and have FOLIO generate the URL and present it to a user, rather than store a URL provided by the user. If we do not store the UUID and choose to store the URL, no further functionality can be built on this field--it will remain purely administrative. Storing a URL precludes the possibility of ever displaying information from Agreements based on this field, for example.

    • Sara notes that we need to be able to import/export a URL in a user-friendly format (ie as a URL) as well as view the URL in the UI. Owen confirms that this is possible to build in FOLIO.

      • URLs can be generated by FOLIO even if what is stored is a UUID. The “mouseover” URLs seen throughout FOLIO are being generated by FOLIO--they are not stored as URLs.

      • It is theoretically possible to parse an imported URL through data import

      • It is theoretically possible to generate a full URL through data export, even if what is stored is a UUID.

      • All of these would need to be built.

    • Sara notes that UUID is not searchable in ERM.

    • (52:55) The main issue is that if you accept any URL in this field, you can't act on it because it's not reliable or controlled. In this case, further functionality may not be required, but if future functionality in FOLIO is desired then we need to consider this up front.

      • (57:26) Sara notes that FOLIO's choice to prioritize data control over flexibility led to issues like Chicago's problems in orders caused by Material Type being required, and ISBN checks in Orders making Invoices unpayable.

  • (32:55) Questions about labeling

    • It's unclear if we mean to store any URL or only URLs for agreement lines, agreements, and licenses. The labels/headings chosen should reflect this. We agree that this will need to be taken to the community for feedback--as long as the general shape is good, we need not wordsmith it now.

1:00

Conclusion

  • Martina asks how we should continue this discussion?

    • Charlotte says that we are not ready to bring this to the broader community, but could take it to MM-SIG. Customizable data elements in Inventory may be able to fill the needs listed above.

  • We decide to spend our session next week comparing this functionality to Inventory Custom Fields. On Monday May 20th, Laura will give an overview of custom fields in our meeting.

 Action items

Martina and Amanda will work to schedule a BELA UAT meeting including Magda