2024-01-10 Meeting notes: Text field enrichment in Patron notices

2024-01-10 Meeting notes: Text field enrichment in Patron notices

Date

Jan 10, 2024 

Housekeeping

  • Convener and notes: @Martina Schildt 

  • Next meeting: Jan 15, 2024

Discussion items

  1. Text field enrichment - @julie.bickle will talk about best practices in Patron notices

Minutes

Use cases for text field enrichment

  • There were many requests for text field enrichment in the FOLIO community

  • although not all text fields need it - opt-in / opt-out seems the way to go

 

  • Julie talks about how text field enrichment has been implemented for patron notices and about best practices

  • Patron Notices: there is the need to send notices out

  • expectation: be able to edit - like in an e-mail

  • Charlotte in chat: We are also sending out printing notices on reminder fees :-) (hebis and Index Data)

  • In FOLIO settings: user can define a patron notice template

    • name 

    • active: y/n

    • description

    • category

    • Email

      • subject

      • body - here the text field can be enriched

    • text can be populated in patron notices via tokens

    • there is a preview option

    • coloured text or highlighted text can be copied in from e.g. word 

    • the fancier you get the more there may be difficulties with export - the simpler - the better

    • tokens need to know to pull in data from where

  • goals:

    • formatiing options

    • populate tokens

  • best practice: keep as simple as possible

  • Maura: my instinct is to look for places where things can go wrong

    • if user puts in links to external sources - those can be out of date after a time

  • Julie: this is a template - not as in ERM where there is the need to edit individual fields

  • Martina S.: the current use cases in ERM are rather for individual fields

  • Owen in chat: The use cases in ERM are more like the current use in the Notes app

  • Maybe supporting Markdown might be an option

  • Owen in chat: This box in the notice template is essentially storing HTML

    • With additional processing of the tokens (which is where mustache kicks in I believe)

  • export requests are very important here

  • Martina S.: users already raised different exporting wihes, e.g. financial systems from ACQ apps

  • Owen in chat: Pretty much all email clients support email in html now (unless you explicitly turn it off for security reasons etc.)

  • Owen in chat: Although I don’t know what would happen here if you printed out the notice which depended on a link - perhaps just print the link text and not the URL?

  • Julie: test in the template - wehre it works - Julie will do further testing after the meeting

  • Maura in chat: I could see that being more secure, but if the link text says “Please visit this link” then the patron might be a little frustrated…

  • Owen in chat: I agree @Julie Bickle (LMU) - I’d be very surprised if the link doesn’t work in PDF
    And then  you print it, the link is just rendered as text (which is normal)

  • Julie is happy to answer further questions any time

  • Khalilah cannot make this call, but is happy to answer any questions regarding the Notes helper app

  • Martina will provide a document where we can collect questions that Khalilah can answer: Questions related to text field enrichment in Notes app

Next steps

 

Chat

18:08:45 Von Charlotte Whitt an Alle:
    We are also sending out printing notices on reminder fees :-)
18:28:04 Von Owen Stephens an Alle:
    The use cases in ERM are more like the current use in the Notes app
18:28:12 Von Martina Schildt an Alle:
    Reacted to "The use cases in ERM..." with 👍
18:28:49 Von Owen Stephens an Alle:
    Markdow
18:28:55 Von Owen Stephens an Alle:
    Markdown!
18:29:07 Von Maura Byrne an Alle:
    Reacted to "Markdown!" with 👍
18:29:21 Von Martina Tumulla an Alle:
    Reacted to "The use cases in ERM..." with 👍
18:29:40 Von Owen Stephens an Alle:
    This box in the notice template is essentially storing HTML
18:30:52 Von Owen Stephens an Alle:
    With additional processing of the tokens (which is where mustache kicks in I believe)
18:32:03 Von Owen Stephens an Alle:
    Pretty much all email clients support email in html now (unless you explicitly turn it off for security reasons etc.)
18:32:41 Von Julie Bickle (LMU) an Alle:
    Reacted to "Pretty much all emai..." with ✔️
18:33:52 Von Owen Stephens an Alle:
    Although I don’t know what would happen here if you printed out the notice which depended on a link - perhaps just print the link text and not the URL?
18:34:51 Von Owen Stephens an Alle:
    It doesn’t really matter - I’m just curious 🙂
18:35:31 Von Maura Byrne an Alle:
    Replying to "Although I don’t kno..."
    
    I could see that being more secure, but if the link text says “Please visit this link” then the patron might be a little frustrated…
18:35:48 Von Owen Stephens an Alle:
    Reacted to "I could see that bei..." with 💯
18:37:07 Von Owen Stephens an Alle:
    I agree @Julie Bickle (LMU) - I’d be very surprised if the link doesn’t work in PDF
18:37:51 Von Owen Stephens an Alle:
    And then  you print it, the link is just rendered as text (which is normal)
18:38:05 Von Maura Byrne an Alle:
    Reacted to "And then  you print ..." with 👍
18:39:01 Von Owen Stephens an Alle:
    Thanks all!
18:39:06 Von Owen Stephens an Alle:
    Happy New year

Attendees

Present

Name

Home Organization

Present

Name

Home Organization

 

Amanda Ros

TAMU

 

Brooks Travis

EBSCO

x

Charlotte Whitt

Index Data

 

Dennis Bridges

EBSCO

 

Dung-Lan Chen

Skidmore College

 

Gill Osguthorpe

UX/UI Designer - K-Int

 

Heather McMillan Thoele

TAMU

 

Ian Ibbotson

Developer Lead - K-Int

regrets

Jana Freytag

VZG, Göttingen

 

Khalilah Gambrell

EBSCO

 

Kimberly Pamplin

 

x

Kristin Martin

Chicago

x

Laura Daniels

Cornell

 

Lloyd Chittenden

Marmot Library Network

 

Marc Johnson

K-Int

x

Martina Schildt

VZG, Göttingen

x

Martina Tumulla

hbz, Cologne

x

Maura Byrne

Chicago

 

Mike Gorrell

Index Data

 

Mike Taylor

Index Data

 

Natascha Owens

Chicago

x

Owen Stephens

Product Owner -  Owen Stephens Consulting

 

Patty Wanninger

EBSCO

 

Sara Colglazier

Five Colleges / Mount Holyoke College Library

 

Kimie Kester

EBSCO

 

John Coburn

EBSCO

 

Zak Burke

EBSCO

 

Corrie Hutchinson

Index Data

 

Lisa McColl

Lehigh

 

Jean Pajerek

Cornell

 

Mark Veksler

 

 

Scott Perry

U. of Chicago

 

Sharon Belaine

Cornell

 

vbar

 

 

Natalya Pikulik

Cornell

 

Kara Hart

 

x

Cathy Tuohy

 

 

Jamie Jesanis

 

x

Tara Barnett

Index Data

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