2024-01-10 Meeting notes: Text field enrichment in Patron notices
Date
Jan 10, 2024
Housekeeping
Convener and notes: @Martina Schildt
Next meeting: Jan 15, 2024
Discussion items
Text field enrichment - @julie.bickle will talk about best practices in Patron notices
Minutes
Use cases for text field enrichment
There were many requests for text field enrichment in the FOLIO community
although not all text fields need it - opt-in / opt-out seems the way to go
Julie talks about how text field enrichment has been implemented for patron notices and about best practices
Patron Notices: there is the need to send notices out
expectation: be able to edit - like in an e-mail
Charlotte in chat: We are also sending out printing notices on reminder fees :-) (hebis and Index Data)
In FOLIO settings: user can define a patron notice template
name
active: y/n
description
category
Email
subject
body - here the text field can be enriched
text can be populated in patron notices via tokens
there is a preview option
coloured text or highlighted text can be copied in from e.g. word
the fancier you get the more there may be difficulties with export - the simpler - the better
tokens need to know to pull in data from where
goals:
formatiing options
populate tokens
best practice: keep as simple as possible
Maura: my instinct is to look for places where things can go wrong
if user puts in links to external sources - those can be out of date after a time
Julie: this is a template - not as in ERM where there is the need to edit individual fields
Martina S.: the current use cases in ERM are rather for individual fields
Owen in chat: The use cases in ERM are more like the current use in the Notes app
Maybe supporting Markdown might be an option
Owen in chat: This box in the notice template is essentially storing HTML
With additional processing of the tokens (which is where mustache kicks in I believe)
export requests are very important here
Martina S.: users already raised different exporting wihes, e.g. financial systems from ACQ apps
Owen in chat: Pretty much all email clients support email in html now (unless you explicitly turn it off for security reasons etc.)
Owen in chat: Although I don’t know what would happen here if you printed out the notice which depended on a link - perhaps just print the link text and not the URL?
Julie: test in the template - wehre it works - Julie will do further testing after the meeting
Maura in chat: I could see that being more secure, but if the link text says “Please visit this link” then the patron might be a little frustrated…
Owen in chat: I agree @Julie Bickle (LMU) - I’d be very surprised if the link doesn’t work in PDF
And then you print it, the link is just rendered as text (which is normal)Julie is happy to answer further questions any time
Khalilah cannot make this call, but is happy to answer any questions regarding the Notes helper app
Martina will provide a document where we can collect questions that Khalilah can answer: Questions related to text field enrichment in Notes app
Next steps
Chat
18:08:45 Von Charlotte Whitt an Alle: We are also sending out printing notices on reminder fees :-)18:28:04 Von Owen Stephens an Alle: The use cases in ERM are more like the current use in the Notes app18:28:12 Von Martina Schildt an Alle: Reacted to "The use cases in ERM..." with 👍18:28:49 Von Owen Stephens an Alle: Markdow18:28:55 Von Owen Stephens an Alle: Markdown!18:29:07 Von Maura Byrne an Alle: Reacted to "Markdown!" with 👍18:29:21 Von Martina Tumulla an Alle: Reacted to "The use cases in ERM..." with 👍18:29:40 Von Owen Stephens an Alle: This box in the notice template is essentially storing HTML18:30:52 Von Owen Stephens an Alle: With additional processing of the tokens (which is where mustache kicks in I believe)18:32:03 Von Owen Stephens an Alle: Pretty much all email clients support email in html now (unless you explicitly turn it off for security reasons etc.)18:32:41 Von Julie Bickle (LMU) an Alle: Reacted to "Pretty much all emai..." with ✔️18:33:52 Von Owen Stephens an Alle: Although I don’t know what would happen here if you printed out the notice which depended on a link - perhaps just print the link text and not the URL?18:34:51 Von Owen Stephens an Alle: It doesn’t really matter - I’m just curious 🙂18:35:31 Von Maura Byrne an Alle: Replying to "Although I don’t kno..." I could see that being more secure, but if the link text says “Please visit this link” then the patron might be a little frustrated…18:35:48 Von Owen Stephens an Alle: Reacted to "I could see that bei..." with 💯18:37:07 Von Owen Stephens an Alle: I agree @Julie Bickle (LMU) - I’d be very surprised if the link doesn’t work in PDF18:37:51 Von Owen Stephens an Alle: And then you print it, the link is just rendered as text (which is normal)18:38:05 Von Maura Byrne an Alle: Reacted to "And then you print ..." with 👍18:39:01 Von Owen Stephens an Alle: Thanks all!18:39:06 Von Owen Stephens an Alle: Happy New year
Attendees
Present | Name | Home Organization |
|---|---|---|
| Amanda Ros | TAMU |
| Brooks Travis | EBSCO |
x | Charlotte Whitt | Index Data |
| Dennis Bridges | EBSCO |
| Dung-Lan Chen | Skidmore College |
| Gill Osguthorpe | UX/UI Designer - K-Int |
| Heather McMillan Thoele | TAMU |
| Ian Ibbotson | Developer Lead - K-Int |
regrets | Jana Freytag | VZG, Göttingen |
| Khalilah Gambrell | EBSCO |
| Kimberly Pamplin |
|
x | Kristin Martin | Chicago |
x | Laura Daniels | Cornell |
| Lloyd Chittenden | Marmot Library Network |
| Marc Johnson | K-Int |
x | Martina Schildt | VZG, Göttingen |
x | Martina Tumulla | hbz, Cologne |
x | Maura Byrne | Chicago |
| Mike Gorrell | Index Data |
| Mike Taylor | Index Data |
| Natascha Owens | Chicago |
x | Owen Stephens | Product Owner - Owen Stephens Consulting |
| Patty Wanninger | EBSCO |
| Sara Colglazier | Five Colleges / Mount Holyoke College Library |
| Kimie Kester | EBSCO |
| John Coburn | EBSCO |
| Zak Burke | EBSCO |
| Corrie Hutchinson | Index Data |
| Lisa McColl | Lehigh |
| Jean Pajerek | Cornell |
| Mark Veksler |
|
| Scott Perry | U. of Chicago |
| Sharon Belaine | Cornell |
| vbar |
|
| Natalya Pikulik | Cornell |
| Kara Hart |
|
x | Cathy Tuohy |
|
| Jamie Jesanis |
|
x | Tara Barnett | Index Data |