2024-08-06 BELA Meeting Notes

Attendees (please add your name):

@Magda Zacharska @Kathleen Moore @Jennifer Eustis @Scott Perry @Jackie Magagnosc @Peter Martinez @Lynne Fors @Lisa English @Amelia Sutton @Robert Scheier @Jeanette Kalchik @Kara Hart @Kimie Kester @Lynne Fors @Peter Martinez @Sara Colglazier Theo Gerontakos @Tim Kiser

Note Taker:

Bob Scheier

Meeting Recording:

Recording and chat: https://recordings.openlibraryfoundation.org/folio/bulk-edit-working-group

Discussion:

	Topic	Agenda

	Topic	Agenda
1	Housekeeping	Attendees - please add your name to the list of attendees.
2	WOLFcon 2024	BELA Working Group Meeting is on the official agenda for September 24th at 3:30 PM BST (5 hours ahead of EST). The meeting is scheduled for 50 minutes. Current list of presenters: Jeanette Kalchik Jennifer Eustis Lynne Fors Kathleen Moore Magda Zacharska (moderator) Questions: Anyone else wants to present? Who is going to be London and who is going to join remotely? Should Kathleen and I get an overview of the roadmap? Yes Next steps? Magda will coordinate a conversation between those presenting.
3	Ramsons release updates	Bulk edit (Kanban Board) Lists app (Kanban board) Feedback/showing of progress next time we meet Development is underway for: Composite entity types (nesting of records) Cross-tenant queries in an ECS environment Querying repeating fields with defined values
4	Follow up on Bulk edit MARC Instances	Differentiate between updating MARC fields and FOLIO fields UAT feedback: The distinction between what can be edited in the Instance and what can only be edited in the source data needs to be clearer. Tags and subfields order after adding new field or subfield Should they be reordered? When a preview of MARC records is generated, we update: LDR 005 Any other field needs to be updated as well? Overwriting fields protection Doable with profile creation Possibly need to move to next release (Sunflower)
5	UAT Feedback	Bulk edit of FOLIO Instance notes: Overview: Detailed responses: Summary 13 participants representing seven institutions User unfamiliar with bulk edit could not complete the UAT - flow seems to be unintuitive, but better instructions would help Only two participants tested FOLIO instances all others attempted bulk edit of MARC records Integration with Query tool was considered clunky and will require better integration with list Clear separation between Errors and Warnings Related Jiras: https://folio-org.atlassian.net/wiki/x/NYCbBw#Ramsons-Release
6	Implementation topics	Bulk Edit Resource Management Implementation Topics
		Notes
		WOLFcon 2024 Update The working group meeting is on the official agenda. It's scheduled for September 24th at 3:30 (5 hrs ahead of EST) for 50 minutes. Right now we have the following participants. On-site or remove listed below. Jeanette Kalchik (on-site in London) Jennifer Eustis (on-site in London) Lynne Fors (Remote) Kathleen Moore (on-site in London) Magda Zacharska (moderator) (on-site in London) Magda asked if we should provide an overview on the roadmap? Jeanette and Jennifer liked the idea of adding the roadmap. Jeanette asked about the amount of time to present. Magda will schedule a separate chat with the presentors to discuss timing and go over presentations. Ramsons Release Updates Not much to show. Still working on backend bulk edit of Mark Fields. You will see the changes in the Ui. However, the functionality on the back end is not connected yet. List App Updates At our next meeting there will be more to share and get more meaningful feedback from this group at that point. Currently the middle of development on our composite entity types/nest queries, types of records essentially. And doing some cleanup to make it more user friendly. Are also working on the ability to query repeated repeating fields. And then the last area that we are actively in development on is being able to query across tenants in an ECS (Enhanced Consortia Support) environment. Bob asked what FQM and USAP are? FQM is FOLIO Query Machine. It's essentially the back end or the APIs that are used in the query builder Which is shared across both edit and the list. Bulk Edit of MARC Instances Magda reported that there was some discussion in the in the Slack channel and in the feedback from UAT that there needs to be some clearification of what is the difference between MARC/SRS fields and FOLIO Instance fields. Kimi created a mockup that introduce a new record type that is called source record storage to make a clear distinction. Magda asked for feedback. Jennifer suggested we should use the same label as in the Inventory QuickMarc editor, “MARC Bibliographic Record.” Source Record Storage will have authority and MARC holdings records. And in Bulk Edit we may have want to designate MARC Authority and MARC Holdings record types. There were agreement from several others at this meeting that “MARC Bibliographic” is a good choice. Magda pointed out that if we go with the option of separating MARC records from inventory records, the query tool may not work as expected. The Lists App does not support MARC source yet. For now it relys on the Inventory App to search for records and then retreives the MARC source records. Kathleen indicated that this will possibly end up in the roadmap as early as the FOLIO Sunflower or the following flower release and that they anticipate that this will be needed sooner rather than later. Magda asked the group if having the option to select either Inventory or MARC Bibliographic at the point of starting a bulk edit from the actions drop-down would be clear to users. When a user chooses Inventory, only the staff suppress, suppress from discovery, administrative notes, and statistical codes (when implemented) would be available, and when MARC Bibliographic is selected the user would only have MARC fields available. “MARC fields” in Actions drop-down will be renames MARC Bibliographic. Jennifer suggested this needs to be spelled out in documentation as she is used to the term SRS. Jennifer asked what would happen if the user uploads a file of identifiers that contain both FOLIO source records and MARC source records. Magda indicated that if the user selects to run a bulk edit on Inventory fields, then FOLIO source records will be updated, and those which are MARC source will generate error messages and vice versa. Jennifer agreed this makes sense and suggested this should also be added to the documentation. Jeanette asked if it would be possible to group the ones together? So you have the admin note at the top and the suppress from discovery at the bottom. To have a section that this will happen to all records, and then this will happen to FOLIO only. Magda thought this a good suggestion. Peter asked if once the MARC source record is updated whether the mapped MARC fileds to Instance fields will be updated. Magda assured him that the instance mapped fields would be updated as expected. Bob asked if the user will be able to submit a mix of source record types if we have the two options in the set criteria section, “Inventory - instances” and Source record storage - MARC bib (which will be renamed “MARC Bibliogrphic”) and thus generate errors when a bulk edit is started. Magda indicated that it will still be possible to submit a mix of records and we will need to rely on the user to know how this works. We will come back to this in the future. There was feedback from UAT that was discouraging regarding the understanding of record types as it relates to updating records with Bulk Edit. Field Sorting Magda asked the group about sorting behavior when adding a new MARC field with a bulk edit. Currently, when a new field is added, the fields are sorted numeritcally and the subfields are ordered alphabetically followed by numeric subfields. Is this the expected behavior, or are there other cases where this sorting order is not the desired outcome? Jennifer and others mentioned there are some fields like the 541 where the subfields are not in this order. Magda reminded the group that for Ransoms release, we are talking about MARC fields 500 and 590. In later releases we will address other fields. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:39:35 So you are saying that it's better to have the existing record, and if we are adding. Bob asked if the subfields that are not in alphabetical order are documented as part of the MARC standard? The FOLIO code should adhear to the standard. Magda will double check with Khalilah as to whether the sorting of the subfields is being handled through the valuation rules. Considering that right now we are talking about 500 and 590 only, Magda suggested that we stick with the current ordering and she will check on whether validation rules come into play here and come back with questions at the next meeting. 005 and Other Field Updates When changes are made to the MARC record (e.g., appending new fields or changing the length of a note), the leader and 005 fields must be updated to reflect when the change occurred. Magda asked if there were other fields that should be considered for updating when a record is modified. This question may be followed up on Slack. UAT Feedback Bulk edit of FOLIO Instance notes: UAT Review Summary: Detailed responses: Magda provided summary of the UAT: There were 30 participants representing 7 organizations. So when it comes to bulk edit UAT this was a good response. UAT cover bulk edit of FOLIO instance note fields. The distinction between FOLIO and MARC instances is not clearly understood by participants. 11 participants edited MARC instances. Magda went over results in some more detail: Users who were not familiar with bug edit had problems, completing the UAT. More detailed instructions could have been helpful, but the software used did not allow for this. Looking into using something different for next time. Only 2 participants used FOLIO instances. All other tied to edit MARC records. The integation with the query tool was clunky and better integration with the Lists App will need to be required. Several users mentioned that teh error reporting was confusing regarding records reported to not require any changes. Magda has created several JIRAs as a result in addition to the ones already created. Links are proved in this spreadsheet: Related Jiras: It was requested that we add the search type “contains” be added. See MODBULKOPS-325 And a couple of respondents suggested that the bulk edit will allow saving queries allowing the user to return to search done. That may be required further integration with list app, something that Kathleen and I will be working on. One of the requests was to add the ability to add multiple administrative notes in one job. That can be done, probably in several ways. We will probably discuss this in more details, later. See See It was also mentioned that the note area only resizes vertically. It would improve the experience if note area could resize in both directions. See Querying for values in the in the notes fields. This is on the roadmap for lists and requires handling repeatable fields as is the case with notes fields. See It was mentioned that it would be helpful to allow users to select records to edit once resulting matches come back from query. This is on the Bulk Edit roadmap but not currently prioritized. See Clearly separating errors from warnings. If there is a problem with the field that is not affected by Bulk Edit, this should be reported as a warning, not as an error. Bulk Edit and Lists App Resource Management Implementation Topics Jennifer Eustis reminded the group to start voting on the topics discussed. Voting helps identify community interests but doesn't guarantee developer action. Votes currently indicate that handling error messages, and central tenant updates are top vote getters with one each. The rest are at zero votes. Jennifer listed the open topic not discussed Yet Ability to select a subset of the records retrieved to be acted on by bulk edit (Jennifer and Magda will look to see if there is a Jira on this one or submit a new one). Ability to apply logic/calculations/conditions to bulk edit changes Implement ability to change “Holdings type” in Bulk Edit (already in being worked on Ability to bulk edit srs marc bib LDR and fixed fields (007, 006, 008) (Instance/SRS Only) Ability to use “System control number” to search for Instances Jennfer asked group which ones should be discussed today. Bob asked about number 9, “Implement ability to change call number array of type, prefix, suffix, and call number.” Jennifer indicated this one is already in progress. Lynn asked about number 11, “(Instance/SRS Only) Ability to use “System control number” to search for Instances.“ It would be useful to have ability to use control numbers in the instance that are not OCLC numbers as a match point in Bulk Edit. This is especailly useful for e-resources. UMASS, Chigago and Cornell, etc. have use cases for this. Jennifer ask the group if this is something that we would like to write up and Jira ticket for? Jeanette wondered if it would be for all system control numbers or only ones of 1st Indicator 9? Because they do not use the 1st indicator 9 but it would also be useful to still be able to search by system control number for their eresources. Magda agreed that Jennifer should write up the JIRA ticket for using the 035 non-OCLC numbers as an identifier for bulk edits. Jennifer will add the ability to also match 035s without first indicator 9 (non-OCLC numbers) for schools not relying on first indicator 9 like Jennette suggested.
	Chat	10:05:20 From Lynne Fors to Everyone: I'll be remote 10:06:01 From Lynne Fors to Everyone: Road map would be great 10:06:19 From Jennifer Eustis to Everyone: Reacted to "Road map would be gr..." with ➕ 10:13:49 From Lynne Fors to Everyone: There may be more than MARC as a source record 10:14:23 From Lisa English to Everyone: Agree. 10:14:29 From Lynne Fors to Everyone: Reacted to "Agree." with ➕ 10:14:36 From Kimie (kee-mee) Kester to Everyone: MARC bibliographic record 👍 10:14:48 From Lynne Fors to Everyone: Reacted to "MARC bibliographic r..." with ➕ 10:14:57 From Scott Perry to Everyone: Reacted to "Agree." with ➕ 10:14:59 From Jackie Magagnosc to Everyone: Reacted to "MARC bibliographic r..." with ➕ 10:16:22 From Lynne Fors to Everyone: Trillium? 10:16:31 From Kathleen Moore to Everyone: Reacted to "Trillium?" with 👍 10:17:27 From jeanette kalchik to Everyone: Replying to "Trillium?" `<https://folio-org.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/REL/pages/5210505/Flower+Release+Names> Yes!` 10:18:17 From Kathleen Moore to Everyone: Reacted to "https://folio-org.at..." with 👍 10:21:11 From Lynne Fors to Everyone: +1 to documentation 10:30:32 From Kara Hart (she/hers) to Everyone: Can you mix and match multiple changes at once with some that are folio only vs marc or both? and what happens? 10:37:34 From jeanette kalchik to Everyone: We have 590s $a$c$b 10:38:44 From Jackie Magagnosc to Everyone: The first 650 is supposed to align with the call number 10:39:01 From Tim Kiser to Everyone: Reacted to "The first 650 is sup..." with ➕ 10:39:03 From Tim Kiser to Everyone: I think order of fields and subfields should be preserved across the board. 10:39:05 From Lynne Fors to Everyone: 648 should come after the 650s 10:42:08 From Ruth Ann (she/her) to Everyone: The 541 has specific subfields for different pieces of info but the subfields are natural text, not enumerated values. 10:42:39 From Ruth Ann (she/her) to Everyone: For example $a in the 541 is the name of the bookseller or donor from whom the material was acquired (usually only used for rare books) 10:44:04 From Ruth Ann (she/her) to Everyone: Yes I'm a rare book cataloger 10:44:48 From Lynne Fors to Everyone: I think its just those two fields that automatically change/update. 10:52:57 From Jennifer Eustis to Everyone: 10:53:55 From Lynne Fors to Everyone: I glanced 10:55:57 From Lynne Fors to Everyone: Maybe the 035 identifiers? 10:56:22 From Bob Scheier (Holy Cross) to Everyone: Number 9 is one we would like to have 10:58:48 From jeanette kalchik to Everyone: Would it only be for first indicator 9 or all system control numbers? 11:00:34 From Lisa English to Everyone: Thank you.
	Transcript	[Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:02:51 The meeting. Please add, as always, please, add your name to the attendees list. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:02:56 And. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:02:59 I will go by the list of the notetakers. I don't know who's present. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:03:05 I know, Christine said. She will not be able to attend the meeting. Do we have Amelia. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:03:13 Bum. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:03:15 Jackie Jennifer. I'm Jen available. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:03:20 I could take notes. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:03:22 Well, thank you, but I appreciate it. [Kathleen Moore] 10:03:24 Thank you, Bob. I can also be I can try to help take some as well. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:03:29 Sure. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:03:30 If you want to do it, that's great, or you want me to do it, or both of us. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:03:38 Whatever whatever works. [Kathleen Moore] 10:03:39 Yep, I'm also fine. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:03:40 Let's go! [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:03:40 Okay. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:03:41 And let's go by the alphabet. And, Bob, if you are willing to to take the notes. That's [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:03:50 Please do. And, Kathleen, your general account. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:03:56 So [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:03:59 I would like to start with the WOLFCon update. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:04:02 The working group meeting is on the official agenda. It's scheduled for September 24.th [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:04:11 At 3 30 PM. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:04:14 And British summertime, which is 5 h ahead of Eastern Standard time. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:04:22 And the meeting is scheduled for 50 min. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:04:26 Right now we have a following participants, that [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:04:34 Express interest in presenting Jeanette. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:04:36 Jennifer. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:04:38 Lynn. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:04:39 And Kathleen and and me will be present as well. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:04:46 Is there anyone else who would like to present their experience in the production. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:05:06 From those who volunteered as presenters. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:05:12 Will all of you be in London, or will you be joining. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:05:20 I'll be in London. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:05:21 This is Jennifer. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:05:23 Oh, thank you, Jennifer. Do we have Len and Janet on? Call on the call. [jeanette kalchik] 10:05:28 I'll be in London also. [jeanette kalchik] 10:05:29 This is Jeanette. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:05:32 Oh, okay, and Lynn responded that she will be remote. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:05:40 The question I have should I provide, and an overview on the roadmap. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:05:47 As a part of the. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:05:49 Of the presentation, or would you like to use the 15 min for yourself? [jeanette kalchik] 10:06:04 I think the roadmap would be good to include as well. [jeanette kalchik] 10:06:08 I don't. I'm at Stanford. We can speak a couple of minutes, but I don't know. [jeanette kalchik] 10:06:14 How long we actually can and should talk about our own experience. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:06:23 Okay, I will schedule maybe a separate chat with those who. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:06:29 Who are interested in presenting, and maybe we can discuss about the time. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:06:36 Needed. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:06:37 For each of you how we are going to share the presentation, and if we need to do some. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:06:45 Before. So as a next step. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:06:48 I will schedule a separate, or I will start a separate chat. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:06:53 With those participating, so that we are prepared for the welcome. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:06:58 And then. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:07:00 Fingers. You anyone would like to bring. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:07:08 And bring up when it comes to the welcome. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:07:18 Then the next will be the release. Update. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:07:23 Not going to show much changes, because we still continue to work on the on the back end. So in the Ui you don't see that much you can navigate to. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:07:37 And bulk edit of Mark Fields, and you will see the changes in the Ui. However, the functionality on the back end is not connected yet. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:07:49 So I'm going to instead of the update. I will. I have a list of questions from development, and I will get back later. Kathleen, do you want to share updates on the list? [Kathleen Moore] 10:08:06 Yeah and mine are, I'm not gonna actually show anything. Today, I'm just gonna sort of high level mention. I think for our next meeting. I'll be able to show a little bit more of this, and it'll also be more meaningful to get feedback from this group at that point. [Kathleen Moore] 10:08:22 But we are [Kathleen Moore] 10:08:24 In the middle of development on our composite entity types. [Kathleen Moore] 10:08:30 So being able to nest. [Kathleen Moore] 10:08:33 Types of records essentially. And so we are doing. [Kathleen Moore] 10:08:38 Some cleanup on that currently to make it more user. Friendly. [Kathleen Moore] 10:08:44 We are also working on the ability to. [Kathleen Moore] 10:08:49 Be able to. Query repeated repeating fields. [Kathleen Moore] 10:08:56 And then the last area that we are actively in development on is being able to. [Kathleen Moore] 10:09:04 Query. [Kathleen Moore] 10:09:06 Cross tenant and an Ecs environment. So when you're in the central tenant and you have appropriate [Kathleen Moore] 10:09:15 Associations and permissions being able to query, some record types. [Kathleen Moore] 10:09:22 Across tenants. [Kathleen Moore] 10:09:29 And I think those are the main updates that I have now for Uhsap and Fqm. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:09:37 Thank you, Kathleen. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:09:39 Are there any questions for Kathleen. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:09:42 In the chat, or. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:09:45 Under one. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:09:46 To ask. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:09:51 Can you remind me what [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:09:54 Usap and Fqm. Is. [Kathleen Moore] 10:09:59 Yeah. Fqm is folio machine. It's essentially the back end or the Apis that are used in the query builder. [Kathleen Moore] 10:10:11 Which is shared across both edit and the list. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:10:20 Oh, thank you. What's usap. [Kathleen Moore] 10:10:24 Zap. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:10:25 I know, he said. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:10:27 Something before Fqm. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:10:29 No. [Kathleen Moore] 10:10:31 Oh, the Ecs, maybe. [Kathleen Moore] 10:10:35 Try to think back to what I said. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:10:51 Ecs stands for enhanced share support, right. [Kathleen Moore] 10:10:57 Yes, that's correct, Mega. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:11:03 Are, they and they are they. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:11:06 And the additional questions? Or can we move to the next topic. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:11:19 The next bullet on our agenda is the follow up on the budget of mark instances. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:11:26 And there was some discussion in the in the. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:11:31 Slack channel regarding the differentiating between Markfield and Fields. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:11:36 And I added the comment from user acceptance testing that we just completed. We will be talking about this in detail later. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:11:47 But the the feedback was that the distinction between what can be edited in the instance and what can be. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:11:57 Editing source data which we refer to mark records or mark instances. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:12:04 Needs to be cleaner, and. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:12:09 Uit confirm that. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:12:14 The difference? What. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:12:15 Is. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:12:17 Mark, instance, and what is volume? Instance is not clear. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:12:24 So as we discussed, and I asked Kimi to create a mockup. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:12:32 That. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:12:34 Introduce a new record type. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:12:37 That is called source record storage. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:12:41 To make a clear distinction. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:12:43 So the user will know that now we are going to update records. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:12:52 And and I would like to hear your feedback about such separation. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:12:58 And also the the naming of the record. If source record storage. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:13:05 Makes sense. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:13:06 I know most of us on the call have been around for a while. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:13:13 But I would say, for those who joined pretty and relatively recently. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:13:22 The idea of source record, storage. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:13:24 It's not clear. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:13:27 So what is your opinion about. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:13:31 Such a. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:13:33 Distinction. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:13:34 And if you see any problems and etc. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:13:45 This is. This is Jennifer. I think. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:13:47 Ma. Maybe we should. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:13:50 Because it. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:13:52 And quickmark. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:13:54 I don't believe it says that it's like edit markic record. So it doesn't really reference the source record storage. And I'm not sure. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:14:07 Anything does like in. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:14:09 Data import. I mean, we all use the term cause, you know. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:14:15 We do know that. But. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:14:17 Maybe we should stick with mark bibliographic record. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:14:21 And set of source record storage, because source record will also have authorities. Mark holdings. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:14:29 And all of that. So we'll maybe with bulk edit we'll have like graphics and mark authorities. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:14:37 Mark holdings, records as well. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:14:40 So do you think it should be inventory? Bibliographic, or it should be just market. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:14:47 And just mark bibliographic. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:14:50 I see on a couple of. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:14:54 Agreements. Thank you. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:15:01 If we go with the option of. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:15:05 Separating mark records. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:15:09 The query, tool may not. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:15:12 Work. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:15:13 Us, you would expect we would still. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:15:17 Be acquiring. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:15:19 Inventory. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:15:21 And through inventory. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:15:25 We want to retrieve the the records. The reason for this is that. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:15:31 List, app does not support. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:15:34 At this point. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:15:35 Source. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:15:37 And the mark records occurring. Mark records. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:15:42 Kathleen, I'm sorry I'm putting you on spot, but I don't think it is on your roadmap. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:15:48 Anytime, soon. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:15:50 Is it. [Kathleen Moore] 10:15:53 Yeah, so we are, [Kathleen Moore] 10:15:55 That's 1 of the things that we're gonna be sort of looking into. [Kathleen Moore] 10:15:59 Next, determine feasibility. [Kathleen Moore] 10:16:02 So there is the possibility that it's going to end up in the roadmap and the possibly as early as sunflower, adding support. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:16:11 Of [Kathleen Moore] 10:16:11 But if not, sunflower, then likely. [Kathleen Moore] 10:16:15 I cannot remember the team name [Kathleen Moore] 10:16:17 But so. [Kathleen Moore] 10:16:19 We are anticipating needing to add this for. [Kathleen Moore] 10:16:22 Lists sooner than not. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:16:28 Thank you. Thank you, Kathleen. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:16:30 The other option. I was wondering if we can. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:16:37 If we can. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:16:39 Continue with the existing approach inventory. You submit the list of identifiers or build a query. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:16:48 And once the preview of the record is much, you select instances or mark bibliographic records. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:16:59 But. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:17:01 And disable the. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:17:06 Editing. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:17:08 Notes. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:17:09 For. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:17:11 Instances, portfolio instances, and support only the fields. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:17:16 That are not the part. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:17:19 Of [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:17:21 A marker code that would mean suppressing from discovery. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:17:25 Start, suppressing. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:17:28 Administrative Notes. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:17:30 And later the. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:17:33 I'm gonna statistical codes. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:17:36 So, for example, if we are going to. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:17:42 Snapshot. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:17:47 Me try this one, because. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:17:50 This may be revealed. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:18:04 And I, you know, with the blocks today. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:18:12 With the environment, anyway. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:18:21 Let's try this. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:18:37 If we are in the instance record, and let's submit the list. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:18:44 Here, these. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:19:06 The behavior is as [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:19:11 Currently implemented. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:19:12 If the user selects start Bogad instance fields. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:19:19 Then the available options here will be only the options that are not in mark records, meaning administrative notes will stay. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:19:32 Staff, suppress. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:19:33 Suppress, from discover. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:19:35 And also statistical codes. Once we add them. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:19:39 The notes will not be present. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:19:44 When the user wants to update the notes. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:19:48 That option will be driven by. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:19:53 Mark records only. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:19:54 So. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:19:55 Navigating here. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:19:58 That will be the rename instead of Mark Fields, we will call it mark bibliographic records. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:20:07 And here are the. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:20:12 Mark. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:20:15 Fields being updated. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:20:18 Is it clear? [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:20:20 To everyone what I'm proposing. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:20:22 Or it's confusing. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:20:34 I I think it's clear, but. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:20:36 You know I'm kind of used to that. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:20:39 You know. Instance, Srs interaction. This might be something to add to like. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:20:46 Documentation. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:20:49 You know, just, you know, if the sources. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:20:53 Mark. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:20:54 Then, you know this is. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:20:56 How it behaves. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:21:00 I'm just wondering. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:21:02 If your identifiers that you put up, what if there's a mix of. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:21:07 Of folio. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:21:08 Source, you know, source, folio and source equals. Mark what happens then. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:21:14 So if you select the editing inventory fields. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:21:20 Then inventory will, then the records that have source polio will be updated, and those which source mark. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:21:28 Will be reported in the error stating that mark records cannot be updated. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:21:37 This way, and if you select and. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:21:41 Mark instances, then, mark, instances will be updated, and the full year records will be omitted and reported as errors. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:21:50 Thanksgiving. I I think that makes. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:21:53 Sense. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:21:54 You know, kind of in this realm, and maybe that's something else to note in, like the documentation, as as you know, kind of expected behavior. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:22:04 Yeah, I I see. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:22:09 The comment of the documentation. I would like to ask if if we have someone present who. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:22:17 Has recently joined. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:22:19 For you. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:22:21 I would like to hear the opinion of from someone who is not fully clear about how we differentiate, or how we differentiate between. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:22:34 Polio instances and marking. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:22:50 Anyone. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:22:58 I'm a little confused cause. I thought. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:23:01 You said that if you choose one or the other. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:23:05 Only in the fields. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:23:05 For those. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:23:07 For that choice will be. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:23:09 Available. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:23:10 So, if you choose, mark bibliographic. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:23:14 Or I'm sorry. If you choose. Instance, then only instance, fields will be available. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:23:18 To be changed. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:23:21 But then but then Jennifer said, What if there's a mix. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:23:22 So. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:23:26 I thought you didn't. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:23:27 And. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:23:28 Didn't have a choice. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:23:31 To do both. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:23:32 Bibliographic and instance at the same time. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:23:37 No, you cannot do this at the same time you will. So let's say, if I submitted here the list of the record, let me see if we have. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:23:45 Here's some. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:23:54 And. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:23:56 Instances, and let's [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:23:59 Make it. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:24:04 I don't want. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:24:05 And I'll ask. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:24:06 And this is the mixture of the [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:24:10 Mark Antonio instances and. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:24:12 Oh, yeah. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:24:13 And if I let's save you ids. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:24:17 And when I started about it. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:24:22 And. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:24:24 And that's what he said. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:24:29 Things closer, and we will use the. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:24:43 So we should see the source here. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:24:53 So he see Folian mark when and actually we should be able only update the. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:24:59 The one record when we do the. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:25:05 Instance, field, with the exception of. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:25:10 Off. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:25:14 Administrative Notes. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:25:15 Because administrative notes will be updated. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:25:19 For all mark and polio records. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:25:23 The same will be true, for. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:25:27 Stuff, suppress. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:25:28 And. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:25:29 Suppress. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:25:30 From discovery. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:25:32 However, if we add a note, let's say language. [jeanette kalchik] 10:25:44 Like that. Would it be possible to group the ones together? So you have the admin note at the top and the suppress from discovery at the bottom. [jeanette kalchik] 10:25:52 Is it possible to have like a section that's this will happen to all records, and then this will happen to folio only. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:26:00 That's a good idea. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:26:02 Group them. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:26:09 Great. Thank you. So let me finish that. That was a very good suggestion. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:26:15 Let's [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:26:19 Complete this example. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:26:20 So we are confirming the changes. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:26:25 We have on the preview that all of them will be modified. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:26:31 However, if we do the commit. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:26:37 Oh, gosh! So this is one thing, and we need to start lower again. Unfortunately, it's a jira for this, and it is being. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:26:41 Yeah. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:26:46 So let me try this one more time. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:27:15 And now it will take forever. I really would like to complete this example so that you you'll see what [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:27:23 Talking about. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:28:02 Okay, er. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:28:04 So let's start this again. Bulk edit of instance. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:28:09 And. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:28:11 And let's do a language again. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:28:30 Remember, changes. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:28:33 And when we commit the changes on the one record will be updated, and the 3 and the reminding will be in the errors. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:28:42 So this is. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:28:44 The one that was folio is updated. The other one states that, for instance. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:28:50 It's not supported for instances. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:28:53 If we do. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:28:57 The same for select instances. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:29:01 It says your ids. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:29:03 And again, this. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:29:15 And if we selected the mark fields. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:29:25 No, no! This is not what I wanted to go. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:29:31 We are in the mark fields. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:29:36 And let's I don't remember which one. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:29:41 Let's say it's it's up like 90. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:29:46 A. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:29:54 And the back end is not connected, so I will not be able to demonstrate. But what would happen here? We would. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:30:02 When we once we get to confirmation, we will get the same behavior, with the exception that this time for mark records would be updated. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:30:10 And one folio will get the error that it cannot be updated using mark. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:30:17 Instances. Edit. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:30:20 So. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:30:22 It seems that this distinction between market instances is not clear. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:30:29 And the uart confirm that. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:30:34 I like the suggestion that was made to group them. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:30:41 And there is a question in the chat. Can you mix and match multiple changes at once with. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:30:48 No. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:30:49 It's not possible. So well, this is what I'm demonstrating. When you submitiers, then either only folio or on the mark will be updated. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:31:01 But you cannot. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:31:03 Do, both of them. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:31:05 At the same time. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:31:08 You are updating administrative notes. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:31:11 Suppressed from discovery, and suppressed. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:31:15 Is there no way to. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:31:17 Panelists upfront before. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:31:20 You submit the. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:31:23 Requests for change. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:31:25 In other words. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:31:27 To say, to look for the system, to look at the source. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:31:30 Type. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:31:33 And tell the user. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:31:35 Your. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:31:38 No, they have to choose what they want to change after that. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:31:42 I guess I don't know. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:31:45 If. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:31:45 Seemed like it should be a way to alert the user before they. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:31:49 Get there somewhere before they get the error message. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:31:53 If we use this option. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:31:57 If you use this option, that is a separate. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:32:02 Yeah. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:32:04 It would be clear. The user will know that only the record. And we will also know that this is what is going to be. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:32:15 This slide. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:32:18 I'll. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:32:19 Updated. That may be clear, cleaner, clear. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:32:22 Yeah. [Peter Martinez] 10:32:24 Magna. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:32:26 Yes. [Peter Martinez] 10:32:26 Is it a question so. [Peter Martinez] 10:32:27 When the source record storage, or whatever is going to be called, is. [Peter Martinez] 10:32:32 Is used. [Peter Martinez] 10:32:34 Only the things that have source records that are marked will be updated. But. [Peter Martinez] 10:32:39 Once the mark record is updated. [Peter Martinez] 10:32:40 The fields. In the instance. [Peter Martinez] 10:32:43 That are, that are mapped. [Peter Martinez] 10:32:44 Those will be updated right? [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:32:46 Yes, yes, of of course. So the the way it actually will work. [Peter Martinez] 10:32:47 Okay. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:32:56 That. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:33:00 The Bunkers will try to update 1st instance record. If this. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:33:05 Update is successful. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:33:08 Then the underlying Mark record will be updated. [Peter Martinez] 10:33:12 Okay. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:33:12 If the inventory is not updated. If there is a problem, then the job is aborted and we are not going to update the underlying Srs. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:33:22 To avoid the data corruption. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:33:28 And this is document that I will share the link to the to the document. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:33:33 To the architectural design. So so you know. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:33:38 How it will work. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:33:39 Are there any questions and suggestions or concerns about that? [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:33:45 The separation. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:33:47 So are you saying? Just so, I understand. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:33:51 And I'm I'm following. So if we add this source record to mark bib, which we want to call. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:33:58 And. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:33:59 Rename it, to mark bibliographic. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:34:01 Because they're selecting that upfront. There won't be any error. Messages. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:34:07 If because there won't be any instance available to be changed. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:34:13 In order to change. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:34:16 Instance. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:34:18 You also have to choose. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:34:20 Inventory Instances. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:34:22 So if this is the division, if we are, if we will go this approach that mark, people have a separate. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:34:31 Period of time. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:34:33 We still are not. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:34:35 Able to prevent a user to submit. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:34:42 Of volume. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:34:44 And [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:34:46 Okay. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:34:47 Mark. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:34:48 Records. We can rely on some of the. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:34:55 We can rely on the user. The user know what what they're going. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:35:01 To do, but obviously it may happen that they will also submit. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:35:06 Portfolio records for your instances while selecting option of market records. So then the errors will be displayed. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:35:10 I. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:35:16 Okay? Bye. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:35:16 I'm like. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:35:17 I understand. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:35:26 I believe we will come back to this a couple more times. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:35:35 Before, because, as you will see, the results of the uit are discouraging. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:35:42 When it comes to. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:35:45 Differentiating of what record types are being updated. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:35:51 Let's leave it for now, and go back to the agenda. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:35:59 I think this was this. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:36:05 The next question that I have related to bulk editing of market records. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:36:14 When we are adding new field, like as I showed in the example that I added 5, 90. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:36:26 What should currently at this moment, as it is implemented, we are reordering fields, so. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:36:34 5 90 is ordered in. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:36:37 In the assembly. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:36:39 Order. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:36:40 The same is for. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:36:43 Subfields. We order subfields alphabetically, and then we follow with the numeric subfields. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:36:52 Is this the expected behavior, or are they cases? [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:36:59 Where you would not want us to order. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:37:16 I I know there are some fields that. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:37:18 Kind of. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:37:19 A. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:37:21 The subfields aren't in like ABC. Order. The. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:37:25 5 41, is an example which is. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:37:28 Gift. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:37:29 So there's the subfield. CI think, comes 1st and then subfield a. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:37:40 Yeah. And Jeanette was saying, they have 5 90 s. With A/C and B. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:37:44 So. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:37:46 I think maybe. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:37:49 Probably not reordering. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:37:53 I guess. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:37:54 So not reordering set fields, but ordering. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:37:58 Fields. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:38:00 Or not reordering anything. [Peter Martinez] 10:38:08 I think, not reordering. [Peter Martinez] 10:38:11 If you want to look at the markets the way it would sum up. [Peter Martinez] 10:38:14 And there are some I mean in general, it's. [Peter Martinez] 10:38:17 Does it matter the order? But for. [Peter Martinez] 10:38:20 I'm I'm not a cataloger, but I think. [Peter Martinez] 10:38:23 And I don't think there's any way to enforce it. But the. [Peter Martinez] 10:38:26 Subject field. The 1st one is supposed to be classification. [Peter Martinez] 10:38:29 Subject. [Peter Martinez] 10:38:32 That knows. [Peter Martinez] 10:38:34 But [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:38:39 Go ahead! [Peter Martinez] 10:38:39 People who are used to looking at the order. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:38:43 Peter, I think it's something with your microphone. You are not coming across clearly. [Peter Martinez] 10:38:50 Oh, sorry! [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:38:51 And. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:38:52 Did you say it should. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:38:55 Or it should not. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:38:56 The. [Peter Martinez] 10:39:00 I think it should be in the, in the just maintain the order that it's in. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:39:05 And then append a new. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:39:08 A new field. [Peter Martinez] 10:39:11 Oh, [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:39:14 So you have a record, and then you are adding new. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:39:20 New Field. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:39:22 Please keep in mind that for ransoms right now we are talking about only. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:39:28 500 900 fields. [Peter Martinez] 10:39:31 Okay. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:39:31 In later releases we will address others, but. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:39:35 So you are saying that it's better to have the existing record, and if we are adding. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:39:42 9. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:39:43 Pyth. [Peter Martinez] 10:39:44 Oh! [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:39:45 90. [Peter Martinez] 10:39:46 Okay, I'm just yeah. I misunderstood. I'm sorry. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:39:46 13 5, 90. [Peter Martinez] 10:39:48 I misunderstood? No, no, I imagine. Yeah, that if it's a 9, if you're adding a 9 x. [Peter Martinez] 10:39:54 It should go with the 9 x's. [Peter Martinez] 10:39:58 In that order, but nothing at the bottom of the record. No. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:40:03 What about the subfields? Should we order subfields or append at the end. [Peter Martinez] 10:40:15 I don't. I guess it depends on the sub like, like someone mentioned that sometimes the field order. [Peter Martinez] 10:40:21 Is not. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:40:24 So. [Peter Martinez] 10:40:25 Oh, always straightforward. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:40:26 So. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:40:28 A question about those fields. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:40:30 That are not in alphabetical order for the subfield. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:40:33 Is that documented as part of the mark standard. [Peter Martinez] 10:40:38 I believe so. I'm I'm not sure which field they are like, I said. I'm not a cataloger, but I know there are some. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:40:43 The like, the 5, 41 c. And then the 541 a. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:40:47 Is that how it is delineated in the mark standard. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:40:50 Can we just. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:40:53 Code, the. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:40:54 Software to follow the mark standard for those. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:40:57 Specific fields that are not. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:41:00 In alphabetical order. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:41:01 I believe that will be a part of the validation rules, and I will double check because the. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:41:05 Yeah. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:41:09 End goal is for bulk. Edit. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:41:11 Obviously to, to. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:41:17 Adhere to validation, rule. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:41:20 I will double check with Kalila If this is being handled, the order of the subfields is being handled through the valuation. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:41:31 Hmm. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:41:31 And [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:41:33 Considering that right now we are talking about 500. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:41:38 And 900. I would suggest that we stick with the reordering. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:41:44 And then [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:41:47 I see, Ellen. Comment. About 6, 4, 8. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:41:53 And field. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:41:56 I'll [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:41:57 Let me check 1st with the validation role, and I will come back to you with more questions. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:42:05 In the next meeting. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:42:08 The the next question is about the modification to the field one. Once we. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:42:15 I see the comment. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:42:17 5. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:42:18 Floor, one. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:42:19 Subfield for different pieces. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:42:28 Let's talk about the order of one more time, and maybe during our next meeting I will [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:42:36 Do some research. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:42:38 On my side, what is possible, and what part of the in application will. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:42:44 I handled that. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:42:46 The the other question I have is about the. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:42:52 Order about the updates. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:42:54 After the market's modified. So we appended new fields, or we changed the length of the node. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:43:03 And the leader has. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:43:06 To be updated. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:43:07 And also the 0 0 5. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:43:11 Will be updated for. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:43:16 And to include when the change, the update happened. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:43:21 Is there any other field that you think we should consider updating. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:43:28 As a part of modifying note fields. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:43:32 If you think there is another group, I should ask the question. Please let me know. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:43:50 Do we have any catalog on the group in the group? Or do? Is my question. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:43:55 Clear. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:44:15 I guess it is not. I will ask the question on the on the slack. Maybe I will get. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:44:22 Yes, so someone said is, Can you. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:44:26 Say, if the record is updated. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:44:29 The leader changes all 5 changes. Is there any other. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:44:34 Field that will need to be updated because record has changed. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:44:54 Okay, let's table this conversation for now. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:44:59 About the field protection. It is doable we can. Technically is possible. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:45:06 We are still debating how much effort it would take if this will need to move to the central lease, or if we can. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:45:17 Squeeze it in the in the sunflower. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:45:20 I would like to spend couple of minutes talking about the. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:45:27 The user acceptance testing. That was concluded on Friday. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:45:33 I honored the link to the detail. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:45:38 Responses. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:45:39 And with my comments to all of them. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:45:43 I also link their presentation that has. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:45:49 The results. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:45:51 I will walk through them quickly. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:45:55 There were 30 participants representing 7 organizations. So when it comes to bulk edit. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:46:03 Uit. This was a good. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:46:05 Response. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:46:07 The Uat covered instances, notes. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:46:11 And it was clear that the distinction between mark instances is not clear. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:46:19 Us 11 participants using mark instances. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:46:28 Here's a little bit more details. Because 13. This is repeated. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:46:35 And the. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:46:38 The flow. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:46:39 Doesn't seem to be intuitive. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:46:42 The users who are not familiar with bug edit had. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:46:48 Problems, completing uit. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:46:51 The instructions, you know. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:46:53 Would. The more detail instructions would probably help. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:46:59 However, the software that we are using for. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:47:05 And for your it does not provide or has limitation on how much information we can provide. So for the next uit, we'll plan to use slightly. Different approach. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:47:18 Only 2 participants that were particip only 2 participants. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:47:26 Test it. Using fourier instances. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:47:29 Everybody else was trying to do bulk, edit. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:47:34 Using mark records. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:47:37 The integration with. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:47:42 And. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:47:43 And it will require integration with the list. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:47:48 And. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:47:50 It was mentioned several times that the errors. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:47:56 We're not clear errors when we stated with the records, did not require changes. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:48:02 Were confusing. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:48:05 So as a result of the. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:48:09 All the. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:48:11 Uit. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:48:12 I have created several jira, several already existed that I linked. I also provided link to the page that has all the tickets from all our uits. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:48:28 It was requested that we are, contains action to bulk. Edit. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:48:33 Platform. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:48:34 Something in addition to find they find is. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:48:44 If we do that fine we support, find on the entire field. For the inventor records. It was suggested that we also introduce the partial. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:48:55 Much as well. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:48:57 And a couple of respondents suggested that the bulk edit will allow saving queries. So that email error occur. The user can quickly return to the starting point. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:49:13 And that may be also required. Further integration with list app. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:49:18 Something that Catalina and I will be working on. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:49:24 One of the request was to add the ability to add multiple administrative notes in one job. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:49:32 That can be done, probably in several ways. We will probably discuss this. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:49:40 In more details, later. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:49:44 It was also mentioned that the note area [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:49:51 This only resides in is only resizing in one direction. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:49:57 It would improve and. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:50:04 Experience, if they have been in the area, will also resize in parallel, not on the diagonal way. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:50:14 And. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:50:18 This was related to the fact, searching, querying for values in the in the notes. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:50:26 That is on the roadmap for lists and. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:50:32 That will require separate handling. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:50:36 Of the repeatable fields. Ask our reputable fields. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:50:42 Sorting and filtering results. It was mentioned that it would be helpful. Once the users see the matching records. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:50:51 To have an option to select. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:50:54 Select records that should be updated. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:50:59 It is on the bulk. Edit. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:51:01 A road map. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:51:03 I don't think it is prioritized at this point. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:51:11 And that was this, and the last one. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:51:18 It is existing was open some time ago, but it is related to the clearly separating errors. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:51:26 Shauna. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:51:28 Warnings. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:51:29 So if there is a problem with the field that is. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:51:33 Not affected by. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:51:36 I'll get it. This should be reported as a warning, not as a matter. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:51:43 And that's it. When it comes to the. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:51:48 Review of the. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:51:50 Uit feedback. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:51:53 Does anyone have any questions. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:51:56 Or comments. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:52:10 In this way. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:52:12 Jennifer, I'm sorry we have only 8 min, but. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:52:16 Please take advantage of those minutes. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:52:20 Stopping, sharing. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:52:22 Alrighty! Let me [Jennifer Eustis] 10:52:25 Start, sharing. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:52:28 Oops! [Jennifer Eustis] 10:52:29 Too many. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:52:33 Too many things to share alrighty. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:52:36 So let me. I did so I noticed. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:52:40 This went to the the old page. So I just updated this link. Yeah. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:52:45 Thank you. Thank you. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:52:46 Yeah. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:52:48 So I will put this in chat. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:52:53 As well so. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:52:57 You all have links to this page. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:53:01 So and just reminder, please start voting. Remember, a vote doesn't mean that the developers will automatically work on that. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:53:10 But Kathleen for both the bulk edit and lists. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:53:16 We'll know what is. Our community is interested in in terms of, you know. Are we more interested in resizing the note area? Not cause it's 0 right now. It's handling the error messages. And central tenant updates. Those are our winners. So chicken dinners. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:53:38 Let's see. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:53:39 I guess. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:53:41 Oh! [Jennifer Eustis] 10:53:43 We have. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:53:44 So I guess my question for the group. Has anyone. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:53:47 Looked at the topics before the meeting. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:53:58 At a glance. Okay, thanks, Lynn. I I know. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:54:03 One is closed, some are in progress. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:54:06 I know, Magda, you're looking into. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:54:08 This one of we did talk about that. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:54:12 At a Pre. In a previous meeting. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:54:17 I. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:54:20 Believe. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:54:23 So what we have for open that hasn't been discussed is yet ability to select a subset of records, to retrieve, to be acted on by bulk, edit. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:54:32 Ability to apply logic, calculations. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:54:36 And conditions to bulk. Edit changes. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:54:40 Holdings type which I think. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:54:42 Is already in the works. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:54:45 Call number. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:54:47 In. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:54:48 I think the holdings. I think it's also in the works. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:54:52 Ability to change the mark. Bib, leader. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:54:55 And fixed fields. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:54:58 Or the ability to use the system control number to search. So which one did you wanna discuss as a group. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:55:07 Or you just want to go for the 1st one. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:55:29 Alrighty! [Jennifer Eustis] 10:55:30 I guess, barring. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:55:32 Not the 1st one. Magda. I just wanted to confirm with you the number 6 the ability to do a subset. There's already a Jira ticket for that right. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:56:03 Okay, Lynn. I'm gonna go with you. I don't. I'm not sure if MOS here [Jennifer Eustis] 10:56:09 May have thanks. Lynn. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:56:10 Oh, I'm sorry I was muted. I was. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:56:13 I was talking and. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:56:16 I was wondering why you don't respond. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:56:20 The. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:56:20 i i i'm sure you had a great conversation, but we didn't hear it so. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:56:28 Let me double check [Jennifer Eustis] 10:56:30 Okay. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:56:32 Think we do. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:56:33 I I think we do as well. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:56:33 I believe. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:56:36 And I I don't think I found it so. I will just put. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:56:40 If we don't, I will add the Jira. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:56:43 Okay, thank you. Or you just tell me and I can. I can edit. I've been looking. I just couldn't find it. So I know we only have 4 min, but I'm gonna go down to. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:56:54 As. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:56:58 Maybe. Is this one you were thinking of? Lynn. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:57:01 The 11. [Lynne Fors] 10:57:04 Yeah, that's what I was thinking. And then Bob is saying, number 9. [Lynne Fors] 10:57:09 As well in the chat. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:57:11 Okay, so. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:57:12 We'll start with 11, and maybe. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:57:17 Yes, this. So, Bob, this already is in the works. So I can change this to in progress. [Bob Scheier (Holy Cross)] 10:57:23 Perfect. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:57:24 Alrighty great. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:57:25 So the one we that we have as a winner. Magda, was, instance. So this would be the ability to change the system control number which. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:57:36 Is on the [Jennifer Eustis] 10:57:41 In in the instance. So the Srs, that would be 0 3 s. That are not ocrc numbers and I think the use case for this is. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:57:52 Especially working with eresources, a lot of the match points, and I know Chicago. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:57:59 Cornell. We do this, and I think some other people. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:58:04 From institutions. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:58:05 So, being able to have a list. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:58:08 Of these. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:58:09 To use as an additional kind of list of identifiers. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:58:16 So I guess my question for the group very quickly. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:58:19 Is this something that we. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:58:21 Would like to write up and share a ticket for. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:58:36 And does the story make sense. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:58:50 Okay. Thumbs up from Peter. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:58:53 When alrighty. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:58:58 I'll I'll I'll take that as. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:59:00 Jeanette, were you gonna say something? [jeanette kalchik] 10:59:03 Oh, I was just wondering if it would be for all system control numbers or only ones of 1st Indicator 9. Because we don't use the 1st indicator. 9. But it would also be useful to still be able to search by system control number. [jeanette kalchik] 10:59:18 For our eresources. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:59:23 And that. Yeah, that's a great point. And I think [Jennifer Eustis] 10:59:28 I think that we can break that into the Jira ticket. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:59:36 So, Magda, if I know we haven't really had time to discuss it, because, you know, we just [Jennifer Eustis] 10:59:43 But should I go ahead and create a Gir ticket where you. [Jennifer Eustis] 10:59:48 Or would you like to launch us on that. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:59:51 If you can create a Jira ticket. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 10:59:55 Add this to the page, and maybe during our next meeting we can discuss the details. [Jennifer Eustis] 11:00:00 Okay. [Jennifer Eustis] 11:00:02 Alrighty I will go ahead and do that, and I will also include. [Jennifer Eustis] 11:00:07 That it's not just O, 3, 9. [Jennifer Eustis] 11:00:11 You know, blank, but O, 3, 5 blank that aren't Ocl. C. Numbers. [Jennifer Eustis] 11:00:17 Yeah. [Jennifer Eustis] 11:00:21 Alrighty. Well, I that's all we have. [Jennifer Eustis] 11:00:24 It's 11 o'clock. [Jennifer Eustis] 11:00:25 The hoo. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 11:00:27 Thank you. [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 11:00:28 Thank you, Jennifer. Thank you, everyone, and talk to you in 2 weeks. [Jennifer Eustis] 11:00:33 Alright! [Magda Zacharska (EBSCO)] 11:00:33 But. [Scott Perry] 11:00:34 Thank you. [Jennifer Eustis] 11:00:34 Bye. [Kathleen Moore] 11:00:35 Thanks. Everyone.