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- Convener and notes: Martina Schildt
- Next meeting: | July 3rd will be cancelled
Discussion items
- Implementers topics | Cross-app: UX/UI
Open action items from former discussions
MCL: export lists - complete list
- is a Spike created?
- are there possible ways to export full MCL list to excel technically
- Enhancements to the UI for Inventory/Quick Marc: UI Enhancement list - status of 2023 (Nolana) | Natascha Owens → postponed
Minutes
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Edit mode: Add a just "save" button, instead of having only "Save & close" or "cancel"
- in some apps there is already the option to "Save & keep editing"
Available in QuickMarc
- Button is called "Save & keep editing" - that is very explicit but very long at the same time
Will be available for holdings
Jira Legacy server System JIRA serverId 01505d01-b853-3c2e-90f1-ee9b165564fc key UIIN-2404 and item level:
Jira Legacy server System JIRA serverId 01505d01-b853-3c2e-90f1-ee9b165564fc key UIIN-2456 as well as instances:
Jira Legacy server System JIRA serverId 01505d01-b853-3c2e-90f1-ee9b165564fc key UIIN-2457 - Owen in chat: In Orders and Agreements with have a “Create another” checkbox next to the Save button for situations where you want to save but immediately open another create form
- Needed: consistent behaviour and labelling
- on the other hand we shouldn't have too many buttons
- checkbox "create another" could be a button as well
- for organisations where contact people or interfaces are to be added, just "save" could help make the workflow smoother | otherwise users need to save and close - click actions - edit again and then connect the new contact or interface
- idea by Dung-Lan in chat: May be to just create a floppy disk icon for people to click to save from time to time as an alternative?! People understand what the floppy disk icon means.
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Navigation within records
- needs input from stripes team
- collapsing accordions helps reducing the amount of information in edit mode
- shortcuts can help
- idea: copy shortcuts into a separate document and keep it open while working in FOLIO
- alternative: print shortcuts and have the physical paper available
- shorts are mainly the same across apps; except for there were specific reasons
Open action items
MCL: export lists - complete list
- is a Spike created?
- are there possible ways to export full MCL list to excel technically
- further MCL agreements: UI / UX agreements across apps → if no tickets existing → Martina will create them
Next steps
Chat
18:02:47 Von Martina Schildt | VZG an Alle:
https://folio-org.atlassian.net/wiki/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4098986
18:09:25 Von Pamplin, Kimberly B an Alle:
https://folio-org.atlassian.net/browse/UIIN-2404
18:09:50 Von Laura (she/they) an Alle:
thank you, Kimberly
18:10:49 Von Pamplin, Kimberly B an Alle:
Instances: https://folio-org.atlassian.net/browse/UIIN-2457
18:10:49 Von Owen Stephens an Alle:
In Orders and Agreements with have a “Create another” checkbox next to the Save button for situations where you want to save but immediately open another create form
18:11:10 Von Pamplin, Kimberly B an Alle:
Items: https://folio-org.atlassian.net/browse/UIIN-2456
18:27:15 Von Dung-Lan Chen an Alle:
May be to just create a floppy disk icon for people to click to save from time to time as an alternative?! People understand what the floppy disk icon means.
18:28:28 Von Owen Stephens an Alle:
I think that’s true of my generation, but not sure if it holds for those entering the profession now
18:33:49 Von Laura (she/they) an Alle:
I know we can collapse accordions in view mode, can we do the same in edit mode?
18:33:56 Von Owen Stephens an Alle:
Yes you can
18:34:07 Von Laura (she/they) an Alle:
because I find collapsing helps navigatno
18:34:12 Von Laura (she/they) an Alle:
*navigation
18:34:19 Von Owen Stephens an Alle:
I use the shortcuts keys all the time to do this
18:34:48 Von Owen Stephens an Alle:
I have to admit I find the automatic expansion generally irritating rather than helpful esp when going to edit
18:35:32 Von Owen Stephens an Alle:
I think that’s an interesting comment (about learning shortcut keys) - do people (real users!) use the shortcut keys do we think?
18:35:43 Von Owen Stephens an Alle:
And if not what can we do about that?
18:36:11 Von Laura (she/they) an Alle:
I use them sometimes, and they are incredibly useful for macros as well
18:36:45 Von Pamplin, Kimberly B an Alle:
I always feel like they would be useful and then forget to use them.
18:37:00 Von Ros, Amanda L an Alle:
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18:37:45 Von Owen Stephens an Alle:
Shortcut keys are mainly the same for most apps except where there are some special reasons for different
18:37:56 Von Owen Stephens an Alle:
So only really need to print out one list
18:38:56 Von Owen Stephens an Alle:
Sorry - it’s a bit of a digression from the record navigation!
18:40:46 Von Laura (she/they) an Alle:
I like the idea of tickets because we could have an app-interaction label
18:41:38 Von Owen Stephens an Alle:
I think making sure POs know about these things is important - and probably needs to be continually emphasised to them.
18:41:47 Von Laura (she/they) an Alle:
+1 Owen
18:42:06 Von Owen Stephens an Alle:
I speak for myself but its easy to overlook some details like this when you write a new feature implementation
18:42:34 Von Laura (she/they) an Alle:
I find it helpful when POs are able to join these calls, but I know that's not always possible (or fruitful)
18:43:44 Von Owen Stephens an Alle:
I think a conversation with Khalilah is a good idea
18:43:57 Von Owen Stephens an Alle:
Happy to take things to PO meetings if that helps
18:44:10 Von Pamplin, Kimberly B an Alle:
Thank you!
Attendees
Present | Name | Home Organization | ||
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x | Amanda Ros | TAMU | ||
Ann-Marie Breaux | EBSCO | |||
Brooks Travis | EBSCO | |||
Charlotte Whitt | Index Data | |||
x | Dennis Bridges | EBSCO | ||
x | Dung-Lan Chen | Skidmore College | ||
Gill Osguthorpe | UX/UI Designer - K-Int | |||
x | Heather McMillan Thoele | TAMU | ||
Ian Ibbotson | Developer Lead - K-Int | x|||
Jana Freytag | VZG, Göttingen | |||
Khalilah Gambrell | EBSCO | |||
x | Kimberly Pamplin | Kirstin Kemner-Heek | VZG, Göttingen | |
regrets | x | Kristin Martin | Chicago | |
x | Laura Daniels | Cornell | ||
Lloyd Chittenden | Marmot Library Network | |||
Marc Johnson | K-Int | |||
x | Martina Schildt | VZG, Göttingen | ||
x | Martina Tumulla | hbz, Cologne | ||
xregrets | Maura Byrne | Chicago | ||
Mike Gorrell | Index Data | |||
xregrets | Natascha Owens | Chicago | ||
x | Owen Stephens | Product Owner - Owen Stephens Consulting | ||
Patty Wanninger | EBSCO | |||
Sara Colglazier | Five Colleges / Mount Holyoke College Library | |||
Kimie Kester | EBSCO | |||
John Coburn | EBSCO | |||
Zak Burke | EBSCO |
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