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Attendees

NamePresentPlanned Absences
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Kevin Day

Jens Heinrich
Out next week  

Discussion items

TimeItemWhoNotes
5 minProxy for Dev-Setup
  • John has been discussing this with Zak/Jason - doing this in stripes-cli.  It sounds like they're coming around to this idea.
  • A spike is still needed
    • John Coburn will create the spike and ask for input/help from the rest of the Security team as needed.

Today:

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5 minCookie SameSite topic raised in SlackTeam + Zak
  • Only remaining gotcha is how this will work with STSH (strict transport security headers)
  • John Coburn created a ticket to include CORS in the proxy
  • TAMU is using an older version of Okapi which is making things more complicated, Kevin is making due.

Today:

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1 minUpdate on SECURITY-159 / FOLIO-4012Craig

We're on track here.  Ian H. applied mitigation.  Upgrade will happen when John Malconian returns from vacation.

  • Jakub Skoczen to circle back and check in with John M.
  • Craig posted a reminder in #devops
  • Check in on this next week 
  • Jakub Skoczen informed that the devops team will pick this up soon.
  • Craig McNally reached out to John Malconian and Jakub Skoczen for an update today.  
    • Response from John: 'I’ll be starting this soon.  Typically will need to be done during “off hours” so I just need to find a good time.'

Today

Response from John on  :

the ID side of the DevOps team is in a state of flux. We are in the process of hiring a DevOps person who can dedicate a certain percentage of their time to FOLIO Devops.  At the moment,  we are stretched thin and do what we can which is mostly triage at the moment. FOLIO-4012 - Getting issue details... STATUS   Still need to schedule this, but aiming to complete before Sept 1.

NOTE:  Sept 1 is this Sunday, and next week is a holiday in the US, so I guess we'll just check in with John again next week?

0 minJira Group and Security Level reviewTeam

From Craig in slack:

I've been in communication with David Crossley, Wayne Schneider, John Malconian and Peter Murray about the issue above.  They apparently didn't have access to these embargoed issues (SysOps and Core Team).  Peter shared this screenshot with me, which doesn't look right.  I'd like to review this at one of our meetings and come up with a list of changes/improvements for Peter to make.  A few ideas off the top of my head:
  1. Add descriptions to each of the security groups, like we have for "FOLIO Security Group"
  2. Maybe add a new security group and level for FOLIO devops
  3. Review membership of each of these groups and remove users no longer on the project
  4. Review the Security Level -> Group mappings.  Some of these don't look quite right to me.

  • If it makes this easier, we could invite Peter to a meeting so we can see the groups/levels interactively and makes adjustments as we go

TODO:

  • Create a new group:  devops, and assign Wayne, John, Ian, David, Peter.  Also create a new security level for "folio devops"
  • Remove Johannes Drexl from the SysOps group, he's not longer involved in Folio.
  • Action: Craig to look into how security level configuration works to gain a better understanding of why it behaves the way it does.  
    • Why do we have All Folio Developers in the "Sys Ops and Core Team" security level?

Today:

  • No update today- Check in on this  
< 5 min

FOLIO-3896 - Getting issue details... STATUS

Team
  • We need to determine if DevOps can work on  or if they don't have bandwidth, and the debian packages aren't used anymore, archive them.  It sounds like some SysOps do use this, but we know that DevOps has very little bandwidth these days.

Today:

25 min

Anything Urgent?
Review Mike's Kanban board?
Review Security board?

Under Review Filter:  Getting issues...

Team

Today:

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Topic Backlog
Time permittingAdvice for handling of sensitive banking informationTeam

From slack conversation, I think I've gathered the following:

  • In this case (bank account and transit numbers), the information is highly sensitive.  
    • Highly sensitive information should:
      • Be stored in it's own table
      • Accessed via a dedicated API
      • Protected by a dedicated permission
      • Encrypted in the database, not only on disk.  

Let's review and discuss before providing this feedback to Raman.

Axel Dörrer also suggested that defining classes of sensitivity could help teams determine which techniques are applicable in various situations.  I agree having some general guidelines on this would be helpful.

  • regular data
    • low sensitive - permission based on same API
    • high sensitive - permission based on dedicated API

It would probably help to provide concrete examples of data in each class.  This can be a longer term effort, we don't need to sort out all the details today.

  • Next Steps:
    • Clearly define/formalize the various classes
      • Come up with concrete examples of each class
      • Build out guidance
        • Come up with concrete examples of how to protect each class of data.
      • Consider storing some classes of data outside of postgres altogether - e.g. in secret storage.
        • What would be the guidance we provide to teams for this so we don't end up with each team doing things differently?
        • SecretStore interface and existing implementations are currently only read-only.  They would need to be extended to allow for creation/mgmt of this information.
      • Craig to start a conversation in slack about this.
        • Seeking a volunteer to generate a draft document for us to review at a later meeting.

Today:

Axel Dörrer to do a first draft as a base for further discussions


Status on pentesting works within Network traffic control group

Due to some absences on different reasons the group stalled. Axel will try to reactivate the group.

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