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Announcements

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• Reminder to vote on Reading Room Circulation functionality

• Jesse Koennecke asks for volunteers to help with Wolfcon 2025

  • Kristin Martin : What are the dates for Wolfcon25? Dates are not announced, yet. The dates will be roughly the same as for London: Sept 23-26

15 min

Calendar planning

Alexis Manheim Kristin Martin

SIG updates/convener meetings, etc. need to be added to our 2025 Topic Calendar

• SIG Convenors Meetings should not clash with end of FY, Wolfcon, holidays…

• Some SIGs have new conveners. Be aware and inform/reach out.

• Tri-Council meetings may be on PC meeting time

• New PO Richard from K-Int will present new module mod-ill in FOLIO next week. This functionality may be related to OpenRS. TC also was unaware of the module. It currently is unclear what scope and functionality this module shall provide and which SIG / subgroup is affiliated with that. Jira-Issue regarding TC review: https://folio-org.atlassian.net/issues/TCR-34?jql=ORDER%20BY%20created%20DESC

25 min

Eureka timeline

Can the PC affirm the community’s intentionto shift to Eureka in Sunflower and focus on planning for the transition?

Alexis Manheim

Background:
Report on the timeline for adoption of the Eureka platform

Recording of the Tri-Council meeting and/or review the meeting notes

== DRAFT, still needs review from here ==

Alexis Manheim : Summary: EBSCO will roll out Eureka with Sunflower. What needs the Community to do to be able to follow. An early adopter program has startet to test Eureka on non-EBSCO hosted orgs.

Main question: Can the community / PC vote for adopting the proposed timeline.

Jeremy Huff : Having had no contact yet with Eureka, feels anxiety that it is unclear whether it requires greater implementation changes etc.

Jennifer Eustis : Timeline seems bit rushed. Eureka test system was often down, doesn’t seem to work smoothly. Timeline may be too ambitious.

Alexis Manheim : No need to immediately shift to Sunflower. Hosters may be able to remain on Ramsons for a while. (There will be CSPs for Ramsons after Sunflower is out.)

Kristin Martin From Acq SIG: Not complete app formalisation with Sunflower.

Brooks Travis LOC uses Eureka for some time now. Not much change in scripts interaction. Interacting with permissions will require bigger changes.

Jeremy Huff What if community will not transition in sunflower? => What does Community bugfest testing mean?

• Alexis Manheim Community will have to do bugfest on their own, providing resources

Jennifer Eustis PC is expected to help people understand what changes are gonna happen.

Jeremy Huff good to know that CSP will be available for Okapi till T

Tod Olson In timeline there are addressed “showstoppers” for Eureka adoption like hosting provider being able to run Eureka, documentation. Also, Sunflower modules not directly attached to Eureka are expected to work with Ramsons' Okapi. Okapi will still minimally be supported as long as Ramsons is supported. (CSPs)

Kristin Martin Ensure that libraries that are already implemented on Folio, have a migration plan.

Alexis Manheim Is it the responsibility of the hosters or the PC that hosters and implementers feel comortable?

Kristin Martin PC has not done a great job on supporting libs that have implemented Folio already. Focus was on new functionality.

Jeremy Huff Charge of councils does not require PC to support hosters. But it should be PC’s concern. Table in timeline doc should be seen as encourageing community to transition.
Community really should have more agency in order to run own bug festing & development if necessary.

Kirstin Kemner-Heek GBV is hosting provider for ~200 libs, currently runs ~50 tenants that have to be moved now. The early adopters will work out processes and documentation how to proceed. The transition and the early adopter programm costs time and money, but there is no alternative.
There should be regular reports to / communication with the community on status and input from the community.

Alexis Manheim Worries what to do when early adopters would express discomfort. What could be potential showstoppers?

• Kemner-Heek, Kirstin Too early to say. Atm, everything seems sensible. Early adopters meet weekly, before PC time. First really informed impression in a couple of weeks.

Jeremy Huff Confirms. Without more information in hand, go conservative.

Alexis Manheim Does this mean that the Sunflower release date needs to be postponed without that information / sufficient confidence in Eureka?

• Jeremy Huff Yes

• Tod Olson Resource triangle: resource, scope, time. Here: resources and scope are fixed, so time needs to be variable.

Alexis Manheim postponing Sunflower release until sufficient confidence should be expressed explicitly in document

• majority votes thumbs up

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Future topics

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