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Jakub Skoczen is next, followed by Taras Spashchenko 

Taras will take notes today.  Thanks!

Reminder:  Please copy/paste the Zoom chat into the notes.  If you miss it, this is saved along with the meeting recording, but having it here has benefits.

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Maccabee Levine Tod Olson  Jakub Skoczen  Craig McNally Jenn Colt 

• CC: Maccabee Levine
• PC: Tod Olson
• RMS Group: Jakub Skoczen 
• Security Team: Craig McNally 
  • No important updates - business as usual
• Tri-council Application Formalization: Jenn Colt  
  
  • Kristin Martin will run the meeting this week
  • Continuing to work through the lists of questions

• 20 Dec 2023 - Topic TBDOfficially Supported Technologies → Quesnelia: review and move to ACTIVE
• 25 Dec 2023 - Cancelled
• 27 Dec 2023 - Cancelled
• 01 Jan 2024 - Cancelled
• 02 Jan 2024 - Chairs Meeting (Tentative)
• 03 Jan 2024 - Topic TBD - will likely cancel, but keeping as a placeholder in case something comes up

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Quick updates only.  If we can't find volunteers for groups, we'll need to add the topic to our backlog and address it during dedicated discussion sessions.

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• Status/Updates:
  • 0004 Date-time values must comply with IETF RFC-3339
    • From last week:  Zak Burke to wrap this up for now...  indicate in the RFC that we're putting it on hold – outcome: Deferred/Cancelled/etc. then merge the PR
  • Application Formalization RFC - DRAFT REFINEMENT PR:  https://github.com/folio-org/rfcs/pull/22
    • Subgroup formed
    • Some have started leaving feedback.

RFC Process Improvements:

• We need another RFC to update the metadata retroactively to reflect the new or adjusted statuses.
  • Any volunteers?
  • Holding off on this for now - maybe someone will volunteer after the holidays.

Notes:

From slack last Wednesday 13 Dec 2023 :

At today's meeting we discussed the communication plan for the postgres/quesnelia decision we made on Monday.  Please take a look at the draft message in the notes (2023-12-13 - Comms for Quesnelia Postgres) ahead of next Monday's meeting.  If you have any comments/suggestions please leave them inline right on the wiki page.  The plan is to finalize the messaging at our next meeting and get it out by EOD 12/18.

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Draft message:

• PostgreSQL 12 will hit EOL as of November 14, 2024 and FOLIO needs to transition to a current version, PostgreSQL 16. The Quesnelia will be a transition release which must run under both PostgreSQL 12 and PostgreSQL 16, this will allow deployed environments to transition.
• It is imperative that, when deployed environments switch from PostgreSQL 12 to PostgreSQL 16, nothing breaks due to this update.
• For Quesnelia, modules should be constrained to PostgreSQL 12 features which are forward-compatible (not broken by) PostgreSQL 16.
• Making this transition will have implications across the technical side of the project, and the The Technical Council will collaborate with affected audiences / stakeholders to assess any impact and potential implementation issues.

List of communication channels to share this message in:

• #development
• #sys-ops
• #devops
• #folio-product-council
• #folio-community-council
• #tech-council
• #releases - at-mention Yogesh/Oleksii P.
• #folio-implementers
• #product_owners (private)

Standing agenda item... is there anything in the decision log requiring attention?

Standing agenda item to review/discuss any requested or required changes to officially supported technology lists

• Check in on progress... does anything else require attention?

Quesnelia Officially Supported Technologies discussion:

• React ^18.2 is correct (Zak Burke)
• Zak Burke will check RTL support for React 18
• Cypress ^9.1.1: Talk to the people who use it and find out what they would like to do
• Update Grails from 5 to 6:
  • Craig McNally: I would rather make the statement that we need to go to 6; otherwise, the longer we wait and deliberate and evaluate and so forth that means it's less time for developers to do the actual work.
  • Marc Johnson: 100% completely agree

Moved to the next meeting:

• Formalize decisions on the following.  Quesnelia is the last chance to upgrade to avoid running unsupported versions:
  • Postgres 13 → Quesnelia 
  • Grails 6 → Quesnelia
• Postgres 15 → Ramsons
  • Wait until we see the result of Kitfox testing
• Attempt to move Quesnelia from DRAFT → ACCEPTED → ACTIVE since the relevant milestones have already passed.