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Attendees:
Links:
- Poppy import planning dashboard
- Poppy timeline
- Folijet Current Development Board
- Folijet (Data import) Bug Dashboard
Agenda:
- Agenda topics:
- Begin Requirements for UXPROD-4081: Refine and standardize handling of 035 OCLC numbers in MARC records (including potential duplicates)
Upcoming meetings/agenda topics:
- Further Quesnelia feature requirement details
- Demo/discussion of the new large file "slicing" feature in Poppy
Chat
Ann-Marie to Everyone 1:09 PM
And are there topics that are not in the "in scope" section that need to be WRT matching?
Christie Thomas (she/her) to Everyone 1:16 PM
Exactly!
Jennifer Eustis (UMass/5Colleges) to Everyone 1:29 PM
Also exported to 3rd party systems for DD/ILL or WorldCat
Ann-Marie to Everyone 1:29 PM
We like polls! definitely good idea, and something to run by the larger community
Christie Thomas (she/her) to Everyone 1:29 PM
+1 lloyd
Jennifer Eustis (UMass/5Colleges) to Everyone 1:31 PM
For single record imports, sometimes the 035 is generated multiple times
Christie Thomas (she/her) to Everyone 1:31 PM
It is! We see that a lot.
And even when it is in the same form.
Lynne Fors to Everyone 1:31 PM
And overlays can add HRIDs as 035s when they shouldn't.
Jenn Colt to Everyone 1:32 PM
The OCLC docs read to me that once the OCLC number is out of the 001 it should not have prefixes https://help.oclc.org/Metadata_Services/Fundamentals/WorldShare_Collection_Manager_Fundamentals/Data_sync_collections_(Fundamentals)/Prepare_your_data_(Fundamentals)/30035_field_and_OCLC_control_numbers
Ann-Marie to Everyone 1:34 PM
Also a good point, Lloyd - data migration for the existing data needs to be taken into account as well, to be sure previously loaded and newly-loaded data are being treated the same way
Jennifer Eustis (UMass/5Colleges) to Everyone 1:35 PM
This happened to us in the 5C. We cleaned up our OCLC numbers so that we removed the prefix to have only (OCoLC)number. Now with the 001/003 generation, we now have variations in the formats
Ann-Marie to Everyone 1:35 PM
Really good point about ISBNs, Christie - I'm continually frustrated by how hard ISBNs are to use as matchpoints, due to having a non-number (X) in ISBN-10s, not currently normalizing between 10s and 13s, and having extraneous data like binding sometimes in the MARC $a and always in the Instance ISBN
Corrie Hutchinson to Everyone 1:36 PM
I’m not advocating one option over another. Just curious about all the ways to address this issue.
Christie Thomas (she/her) to Everyone 1:37 PM
Absolutely, Corrie! I think it is definitely worth asking the question and understanding the impact.
Jennifer Eustis (UMass/5Colleges) to Everyone 1:37 PM
We sometimes end up with 3 OCLC numbers strangely enough
Christie Thomas (she/her) to Everyone 1:37 PM
That happens to all of us, too!
Jennifer Eustis (UMass/5Colleges) to Everyone 1:37 PM
Right now we can't do marc modifications on LDR, 001, 003 or fixed fields
Corrie Hutchinson to Everyone 1:38 PM
+1 Jenn
Jenn Colt to Everyone 1:38 PM
Only for very old ones
Less than 8 digits
Ann-Marie to Everyone 1:39 PM
Those leading zeroes are such a dang pain - and I didn't even realize they were there until I was playing with ISRI a bunch one day
Christie Thomas (she/her) to Everyone 1:40 PM
They are a pain! We have som many staff that rely on reporting on Excel and having those leading zeroes makes Excel reporting a problem.
Jenn Colt to Everyone 1:41 PM
Any of those!
Jenn Colt to Everyone 1:52 PM
Yeah I wondered if these are kind of the same issue in some way
Ann-Marie to Everyone 1:53 PM
One thing that may help is automating some of the tests related to these bugfixes - if it's working, and then a change breaks it, the automated test will catch it immediately.
Jennifer Eustis (UMass/5Colleges) to Everyone 1:59 PM
For the 970, it would be great to discuss how we can handle the cleanup left when a job is cancelled. Right now, we've found that this is very manual and sometimes needs reports to find lost records
Jennifer Eustis (UMass/5Colleges) to Everyone 2:01 PM
That happens to us all the time
Lynne Fors to Everyone 2:03 PM
If it came up in the last week or so, it was probably me