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2022-04-07 CDL Sub-group Meeting Notes

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https://zoom.us/j/337279319 (pw: folio-lsp)

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2minAdministrivia

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Continue to gather requirements and discussion







Meeting Notes


Scope:

  • DB: Initial scope vs Ultimate Scope - Ultimate scope is full CDL/ILL but initially scope is internal.
  • AL : Stages - start with CDL from our own offsite collections for our own people
    • Then grow out into consortial ILL
  • SS: Very much internal - Stanford Collections, internally - maybe eventually more broadly
  • DB: Do / Don't we need to draw a distinction between ILL and internal
    • Chicago - CDL for course reserves
    • AH: Cornell - What CDL is may depend upon what is delivered
    • Knowing what we are building towards may help institutions plan / decide
  • AL: Draw a distinction between whole collections being sequestered vis item-by-item level 
  • DB: We should not draw the internal scope too narrowly to begin with
  • Some current practice using GoogleDrive links to canvas in course-ware
    • Sequester items for the duration of the course - check items out to proxy account
    • Successful 2-3k items on course reserve loan using this approach
  • DB affirmed the need for this to be generalized - because different institutions will want to have radically different policies - E.G. Paging/Holds on items.
    • Initial scope - not a delivery platform inside folio
    • DB Question: Will this include a delivery platform
  • SS: Question - what mechanism is being used to make items unavailable currently
    • DB - pseudo patron
  • SS: requirement - currently using ILS for charging to the user
    • DB - rather see FOLIO develop something that can handle a better fidelity model of the distinction between sequestering the physical and loaning the digital.
  • A question around the separation between physical and electronic items
    • SS the challenge is that - absolute tie-in between A-physical-item and A-electronic-item - and have 1 item with a mode-of-access property.
    • SH : Aspects of own-to-loan ratios 
      • DB +1 own to loan ratio is key
        • Know that the physical item is sequestered
        • know that the physical item is loaned
    • AL : Asked SS about Stanford Differentiating between physical and digital loans
      • And noted that this is important
      • AL : Usage - do we need more physical or more electronic copies - we need to know when a different mode of access is used.
    • Check out to pseudo patron - then layer some record-keeping on top of that - Symphony doesn't count the bindery/pseudo patron loan as a use. hold module can tell who held an item.
    • Implementation can be brittle if datasets get out of sync
    • AL: Reporting is key - the ability to do data analytics and later on work out who held what
    • SS: Be better if the ILS better understood that a check-out was digital access and the physical was sequestered.
    • SH: Do we need FOLIO to be able to work in both modes - Separate electronic and physical or unified
    • AL: Duration of digital loans - and how intensive is the usage
    • DB: Do we embed the delivery in FOLIO or use something external
    • AL: It almost has to be external - this will have to work outside FOLIO
    • II: Taxonomy of delivery systems - IIIF/google drive type approaches vs Readium
    • DB: There are pressures
    • AL: Different levels of comfort from different general council
    • DB - Current implementation is fine - no direct pressure
  • AH: It might not be urgent "We need this now" - "We can't implement without this"
  • AH: The point at which CDL starts appearing as lines on RFP
  • SH: Should we "Pitch" CDL at WolfCon to see what interest there is in the community

Interoperability

  • SH: NISO project has identified some large categories of things that we should interoperate with - CIRC, DRM, ILL
  • DB: Lets get someone from MM into this call to talk about the modelling aspect of this
  • SS: Sequester of physical item
    • ItemState PO
  • Action:II Follow up to see if someone from MM can come talk to us
  • AL: Go physically fetch


  • All: This is a good slot for meetings



List of requirements:

Requirements should contain (needs more detail):

  • scope
  • interoperability
  • ILS vs other systems
  • where are the boundaries?
  • Statistics and Reporting should be part of this too
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