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TimeItemWhoNotes
10 minutesWelcome

Welcome to our newest FOLIO member, the University Library of Regensburg  - next week!  

15 minutesLDP App Team 

LDP app request from Angela Zoss/FOLIO Reporting SIG (Email from July 22 )

  • 2 repos: one for FOLIO, one for LDP
  • Request was send to Cap Planning group as well
    • Harry want to respond to Angelas Letter and explain why it was not included in Kiwi -align it in CPG
    • 3 main issues
      • is LDP part of FOLIO code base
      • as a separate project it would be not
    • Ian: a technical decision (pragmatic) should not be a decision overall
    • Ian: make sure, that new libraries are able to built a new platform
    • Harry: we need a process that explains how these apps work as part of the platform
      • to be included in the release documentation is needed
      • the code needs to reside in the FOLIO repo
      • any code, that resides outside FOLIO github is not part of FOLIO (Harry)
    • PC: need to take history of LDP development in consideration
    • What can be a solution to include LDP into FOLIO?
      • Integrate the code in the Github?
      • LDP App can reside inside FOLIO while the LDP Code reside somewhere else
      • But: is the code in Github necessary, because the code resides under the same roof (OLF)?
      • Definitions for release integration are there in time! 
    • Open question for TC: what is a release and what is the  process!
    •  PC needs to discuss the necessary reporting functionality
    • Todo'S for PC / TC
    • Harry - To do CC: How do we start an app store concept? 
    • Harry: whoever writes code in FOLIO will be responsible for the maintenance over time!
      • Not maintained code breaks releases over time!
      • Needs to be included in MOU's!  

Chat:

Von Mike Gorrell an alle:  04:09 PM
https://folio-project.slack.com/archives/CGPMHLX9B/p1626279332287700?thread_ts=1624633396.247000&cid=CGPMHLX9B
This is the conversation in Slack that I believe the Reporting SIG is referring to.
Von Ian Walls an alle:  04:12 PM
part of the platform, or part of the LSP?
Von Simeon Warner (he/him) an alle:  04:13 PM
Having to “include” things really breaks the App Store model, but the App Store on my phone is real easy to use…
Von Ian Walls an alle:  04:14 PM
yes, reporting needs to be part of FOLIO LSP.
Von Simeon Warner (he/him) an alle:  04:14 PM
Reporting is both in-app and LDP isn’t it?
Von Ian Walls an alle:  04:15 PM
if LDP is meant to be part of the FOLIO LSP, then it needs to be included in the release cycle.
Von Ian Ibbotson an alle:  04:16 PM
:P
Von Mike Gorrell an alle:  04:17 PM
To me a key thing to keep in mind is that LDP is used beyond fOLIO, but it is/was certainly FOLIO First. This adds a wrinkle for sure
Von Ian Ibbotson an alle:  04:17 PM
YEah - having three alternatives adds a wrinkle too
Von Ian Walls an alle:  04:17 PM
I just reported on my reporting solution to Reporting SIG last hour
Von Simeon Warner (he/him) an alle:  04:18 PM
If LDP were meant to be part of FOLIO, wouldn’t it also need not to be a separate OLF project?
Von Boaz Nadav Manes (Lehigh) an alle:  04:19 PM
Is the EBSCO “reporting app” part of the FOLIO code?

Von Ian Walls an alle:  04:21 PM
to clarify, the PC could decide to include the LDP App into FOLIO LSP, but not including LDP itself
Von Mike Gorrell an alle:  04:21 PM
Right Ian.
Von Boaz Nadav Manes (Lehigh) an alle:  04:23 PM
Reporting is an essential piece of any Library Management System - discovery and ILL not

Von Tom Cramer an alle:  04:25 PM
So the PC would make a product decision. Then the TC would ensure technical gates are defined and met. Is there a CC (or other group?) task to establish process for including extra-mural apps in FOLIO builds?
Von Boaz Nadav Manes (Lehigh) an alle:  04:25 PM
Yes
Von Simeon Warner (he/him) an alle:  04:26 PM
Certainly agree that (whatever the outcome) the process and requirements need to be well defined
I do worry about the scalability of including non-FOLIO apps in core releases. A proper App Store model would be good
Von Ian Walls an alle:  04:26 PM
we've been talking about this very thing in TC
Von Boaz Nadav Manes (Lehigh) an alle:  04:26 PM
Good idea Harry

10 minutesFunding status for 2 FOLIO funded developersTeam/PaulaWe've funded two developers through December. What's the outlook for funding them further and what is our process for keeping them informed?
15 minutesCommunication ChannelsTeam

Discuss what channels exist and how we nail down which means should be used for different purposes:

  • Elections
  • Fund raising
  • News and Information
  • etc

We have Slack, Email, Twitter, Websites

10 minutesUpdatesTeamAny pertinent updates from previous activities?
30 minutesRoadmap UpdatePC Raodmap Groupnext week


Hkaplanian2 items - Mike will add
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