2022-12-08 Metadata Management Meeting notes

Date

08 Dec 2022

Attendees

~ 20

Recordings

Recordings of meetings can be found in the Metadata_Management_SIG > Recordings folder on AWS from 2022 onwards: https://recordings.openlibraryfoundation.org/folio/metadata-management-sig/

Discussion items

Notetaker	Alissa Hafele
Announcements		No meeting December 22 or 29 FOLIO Prioritization and Roadmap Working Group is looking for volunteers Convener: Jesse Koennecke Reporting SIG - Looking for new members. Interested? please reach out! Convener: Angela Zoss
PC update	Sharon Wiles-Young	SIG updates today at PC meeting; Some highlights: Jesse is calling for volunteers for the Roadmap and Prioritization group; Implementers Group Tara Barnett will be the new convener of the SIG; App interaction has opened the slack channel and are looking at workflow tools and how other institutions are using workflow tools; RA SIG have another PO leaving; looking for more Reporting SIG Sharon B. will help to co-convene this SIG and call for more members on this SIG PC report- Next meeting discuss the Evaluation Process for New FOLIO modules <insert link> Sharon Wiles-Young ; January 12th will be a cross council meeting PC,TC,CC Results of Nolana BugFest very positive Kristin shared the summary of SIG conversations and action items Action items for PC- Improve communications PC-SIG; make the SIG updates more useful such as needs of SIGs for example- reporting needs across FOLIO; balance needs and visions of each SIG-maybe Roadmap will help with this; Project needs to have something to replace sprint reviews; resources needs and gaps and expectations example courses (reserves development); need for better test data and work on reference environment; onboarding working group help with connecting people resources with the needs and gaps in development and help with participants to feel empowered and to speak up; Transparency in allocation of development resources. Clear relationship between SIG effectiveness and satisfaction and PO/developer resources given to the areas of concern.
	Jennifer Eustis	MM SIG Release Note & Other Highlights LDP Updates - can use snapshot. Talk with Nassib for access Ldpmarc 1.6 released Small working group on data normalizations In transit report failed in Nolana bugfest - still in progress Work currently deferred to Orchid
Effective call number get mixed up when using Hebrew or Arabic characters	Martin Scholz Charlotte Whitt	UIIN-2236 - Getting issue details... STATUS Demo by Martin Scholz. may be of interest for understanding RTL in Unicode: http://unicode.org/reports/tr9/#Formatting and https://unicode.org/reports/tr9/#Markup_And_Formatting Found during Nolana bugfest, Test - "Display effective call number string on item record". Assumed scripts with left to right are used in call number fields. If you use, e.g. Arabic or Hebrew, the fields get mixed up. Stems from how unicode defines how right to left characters should behave when inline with left to right. Per rules it is correct, but results in wrong order of when effective call number is computed Fields are concatenated with white space and follow the unicode rule that says if "neutral" characters eg. numbers, should be treated also as right to left https://unicode.org/reports/tr9/#Markup_And_Formatting Are there any use cases for this? Is this required to fix?Not likely in German libraries Not likely in German libraries Cornell - no 5C - no Chinese libraries using FOLIO? not likely an issue due to directionality Felix will ask HBZ Further discussion Flexibility in general would be desired, e.g. customizing effective call number Having the ability to omit fields like the enum./chronology from effective call number would be interesting as well Charlotte will file a ticket *<insert link> Charlotte Whitt* Would be good to consider consortium and have this at, e.g. the campus level

Chat:

08:31:27 From Felix Hemme (ZBW) to Everyone:
Link to agenda: https://wiki.folio.org/x/TDG-BQ
08:31:53 From Alissa Hafele to Everyone:
I can do it
08:32:15 From Felix Hemme (ZBW) to Everyone:
Thank you Alissa
08:32:36 From Alissa Hafele to Everyone:
No problem!
08:57:48 From Laura (she/they) to Everyone:
we don't use these scripts in our call number data, just the bibliographic/instance data
08:58:13 From Felix Hemme (ZBW) to Everyone:
I will ask Christin from the hbz library consortia about potential use cases. I've heard they are in contact with a special library with a large hebrew collection.
08:58:14 From Jennifer Eustis (she/her) to Everyone:
It's not a use case here in the 5C as far as I know. Our call numbers are either LC, cutter and don't use the scripts
08:58:20 From Felix Hemme (ZBW) to Everyone:
But IDK about the call numbers
08:59:27 From Sharon Wiles-Young to Everyone:
sorry I have to run to another meeting. Thanks
08:59:29 From Lynne Fors to Everyone:
Do any of the Chinese Folio libraries use non-Latin characters in their call numbers?
08:59:37 From Lisa F. (Cataloging) to Everyone:
It's the series/serials - if there were a case where the numbering caption was in a script - but I don't think anyone does that, we use the latin captions for numbering (we wouldn't have been able to print labels otherwise)
09:00:03 From Charlotte Whitt to Everyone:
I’ll also talk with Peter Murray who works with Mashud
09:05:15 From Felix Hemme (ZBW) to Everyone:
Having the ability to omit fields like the enum./chronology from effective call number would be interesting as well
09:09:29 From Jennifer Eustis (she/her) to Everyone:
Thank you Charlotte
09:09:43 From Alissa Hafele to Everyone:
Please add me as well
09:11:05 From Lisa F. (Cataloging) to Everyone:
Sorry, I wasn't clear: there are classed together series where the call number on the individual piece record is actually in the form of 'R12 .B38 no. 1' - I suppose it's possible for numbering to be non latin, but I've never seen one.
09:11:11 From Charlotte Whitt to Everyone:
Yes, I’ll do that Alissa