2018-12-03 MARCcat Subgroup Meeting Notes

Date

03 Dec 2018

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Discussion items

Item	Who	Notes

MARCcat UX/UI analysis	Tiziana Possemato, David García Sánchez	Discussion on the Name/Title management and display in MARCcat. Definition about the category that should include the Name/Title: should Name/title be include in the category of Name or in category of Name/Title? Definition of the criteria to order the result list of AUTH+BIB
Notes		Please, attached you'll find a document excel used to report all bibliographic records with subject "Leonardo da Vinci" (David will use it to make a proposal). In the first sheet Result subject for "Contains", there is the result list of a search for "Contains" subject Leonardo da Vinci. In the second sheet Subject order for Contains, the previous records are ordered by Subject. The third sheet Result subject for "Begin with" is the result list of a search for "Begin with" subject Leonardo da Vinci. In the last sheet Subject order for "Begin with" the previous records are ordered by Subject. We attached this document to highlight how many subjects a record might have and to think about the best possible order to apply to them.

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1. Title Search Results - Default Order by Title

TI Biblia, default order for TITLE (130 AUTH and 245 BIB). Tag 130 is included in the ACCESS POINT column

•Search for Title «Biblia» and default order in AUTH and BIB for Title (in case of bibliographic records Title is coming form 245).

•Tag 130 is included in column «Access point». In the column «Uniform title» you have only tag 240 (please don’t consider in the column of tag 240, the wrong uniform titles for two records. It’s just an example to indicate the presence of a tag 240).

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2. Contains «Wonderland», All MARC Fields

AW "Wonderland". Tag 130 is included in the ACCESS POINT column.

•Search for «Contains» in ALL Marc field for «Wonderland» and default order in AUTH for Access Point and in BIB for Title (tag 245).

•Tag 130 is included in column «Access point». In the column «Uniform title» you have tag 240.
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•Please consider the second bibliographic record. In this case the record doesn’t have an author, but a tag 130 «Alice’s adeventures in Wonderland». So in the column for Access Point, you’ll find the 130. Do you prefer to see it or prefer to see an empty field (because the record doesn’t have an author)? In the second case, the information relating to 130, would be lost.

Comments: Sarah Ross I believe that especially for serials, seeing the 130 will be very helpful.

Pat Williams: Why is "Varrin, Alexandra" appearing in the authority results for this search? The tag indicates that this information is coming from the 670, but it is very unlikely that we would be interested in seeing information from an authorities citation. Usually we want to see the established form of the heading and its cross references. But maybe I'm wrong and people would want to see this?

@Cult: Yes Pat, some people have asked for an ANY KEYWORD search even in authority records, it means that I can find "wonderland" also in the tag note (670). In this case of course in the main access point I'll have an estabilished heading different from the term searched (that it is in tag 670). But if they prefer, we can change this behavior and look for the term only in the 1XX / 4XX / 5XX tag (excluding note tags).

Jacquie: I prefer the first option (blank author field, but display the 130) since this combination of data elements is frequently used for describing continuing resources. Pat Williams Do you think that the error you found is another situation where data was used to show the display, rather than actual functionality, as with the 240 tag above? I hope that's it!

3. “Begin with” or "Contains" for Name "Kafka"

NA "Kafka". Tag 130 is included in the ACCESS POINT column.

•Search for «Begin with» in Name «Kafka» and default order in AUTH and in BIB for Access Point

•Search for «Contains» in Name «Kafka» and default order in AUTH and in BIB for Access Point

•Tag 130 is included in column «Access point». In the column «Uniform title» you’ll have only tag 240 (tag 130 will be deleted).

Comments: Sarah Ross (Don't forget to delete 130 from the very top of the column, the guide-column).

4. “Begin with” for Subject "Leonardo"

“Begin with” for Subject "Leonardo". Tag 130 is included in the ACCESS POINT column.

•Search for «Begin with» in Subject «Leonardo da Vinci» and default order in AUTH for Access Point and in BIB for the first Subject that start with «Leonardo da Vinci».

•Tag 130 is included in column «Access point». In the column «Uniform title» you have tag 240.

Comments: Sarah Ross: See the "gnd" parked next to the Solari example, and the "fast" next to Cotte below? I believe that in order to handle the many vocabularies our catalogs use, we will need to have an whole extra column giving a label for the source vocabulary. It's the only way to make sense of the mix of punctuations you see above. I'm sorry it's complicated but that is the path we chose when we started accepting non-LCSH.

5. “Contains” for Subject "Leonardo"

“Contains” for Subject "Leonardo". Tag 130 is included in the ACCESS POINT column.

•Search for «Contains» in Subject «Leonardo da Vinci» and default order in AUTH for Access Point and in BIB for the first Subject that contains «Leonardo da Vinci».

•Tag 130 is included in column «Access point». In the column «Uniform title» you have tag 240.

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Attendees

Present	Name
	Lisa McColl McColl
	Mary Alexander
	Lisa Sjögren (EBSCO)
	Jacquie Samples
	Natascha Owens
	Tiziana Possemato
	Annalisa Di Sabato
	Andrea Gazzarini
	Natascia Bianchini
	Holyna NA
	Christian Chiama
	David García Sánchez
	Charlotte Whitt
	Ann-Marie Breaux (Deactivated)
	Lynn Whittenberger
	Laura E Daniels
x	Sarah Ross
	Pam Stansbury
	Filip Jakobsen
	Jennifer Eustis