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1 minScribeAll

Florian Gleixner 

Reminder:  Please copy/paste the Zoom chat into the notes.  If you miss it, this is saved along with the meeting recording, but having it here has benefits.

5-10 minLiaison Updates
  • CC: Maccabee Levine
    • Two applications for the developer advocate
  • PC: Tod Olson 
    • PC meetins slot was used by the 3-council meeting
  • RMS Group: Jakub Skoczen 
  • Security Team: Craig McNally No updates, triaging issues.
    • No important updates - business as usual
  • Tri-council Application Formalization: Jenn Colt  
10 minTCR Board Review

All

  • Jira Legacy
    serverSystem Jira
    serverId01505d01-b853-3c2e-90f1-ee9b165564fc
    keyTCR-33
    - update from Jenn Colt?
  • PC still discussing
  • Some discussion about it having UI in settings, front end may get adjustments. Some discussion about whether to go ahead and work in parallel with PC just to have more time. Will proceed.
  • Jira Legacy
    serverSystem Jira
    serverId01505d01-b853-3c2e-90f1-ee9b165564fc
    keyTCR-35
    - Jeremy Huff will take
  • Jira Legacy
    serverSystem Jira
    serverId01505d01-b853-3c2e-90f1-ee9b165564fc
    keyTCR-36
    - Jeremy Huff as well
  • Jira Legacy
    serverSystem Jira
    serverId01505d01-b853-3c2e-90f1-ee9b165564fc
    keyTCR-37
      - Jeremy Huff Ingolf Kuss
  • Jeremy will work out what order/whether to do in sequence/parallel to work on these. Starting on TCR-37 probably makes the most sense since it is lowest level.
  • DCB getting more PC discussion as well
  • Moving forward on these due to time constraints
  • There are many TCRs for Q. Is this something we should flag? Can TC get them all done? Practically we need to be able to work in parallel with PC.
  • Did we drop the explicit contact from PC from the TCR process?
  • TCR group will consider all these sequencing issues and try to figure out a recommendation
5-10 minLiaison Updates
  • CC: Maccabee Levine
    • No meeting this week
  • PC: Tod Olson 
    • Presentation related to mod-batch-print, discussion focused largely on how the batch print jobs for reminder notices are exposed in the UI and whether the module itself is optional.
    • Presentation on Direct Consortial Borrowing, did not get to discussion.
    • See 2024-01-11 Product Council Meeting Agenda and Notes for links to slide decks, etc.
  • RMS Group: Jakub Skoczen 
  • Security Team: Craig McNally No updates, triaging issues.
    • No important updates - business as usual
  • Tri-council Application Formalization: Jenn Colt  
    • Work continuing
1 minUpcoming MeetingsAll
  • - Regular TC meeting (instead of Monday 15th)
  • - Tri-Council meeting
  • - Regular TC meeting
    • - Topic TBD
    5-10 min

    Technical Council Sub Groups Updates

    All

    Quick updates only.  If we can't find volunteers for groups, we'll need to add the topic to our backlog and address it during dedicated discussion sessions.

    • Configuration group - RFC has been created so close subgroup and move work to the RFC for configuration, will work on composing the group
    • Breaking changes - have volunteers Ankita, Zak, Jeremy. Will sort out their next steps
    • Translations - conversations in council
    • TCRs - group still meeting
    • Application formalization RF draft - Craig will work on
    10 minRFCs

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    RFC Process Improvements:

    • We need another RFC to update the metadata retroactively to reflect the new or adjusted statuses. - Jenn Colt will do this, hasn't finished yet
      • Any volunteers?
      • Holding off on this for now - maybe someone will volunteer after the holidays.

    Notes:

    1-5 min

    Postgres Messaging

    All

    The announcements were made before the holidays.  Has anyone received questions / comments on this?  

    • Ingolf Kuss this has not been addressed at the sysops group yet
    • Craig McNally will bump the threads to try to get more feedback

    Notes:

    no objections from sysops

    no other feedback or objections

    1 minDecision LogAll

    Standing agenda item... is there anything in the decision log requiring attention?

    5-10 min

    Officially Supported Technologies

    All

    Standing agenda item to review/discuss any requested or required changes to officially supported technology lists

    • Check in on progress... does anything else require attention?
    • Next Important Milestone:  Review Ramsons (3rd party dependencies) and move from DRAFT → ACCEPTED by  
      • Maybe we should aim to start looking at this on so we have time for discussion/adjustments.
    • Versions for the components:
      • Resume discussion at an upcoming dedicated topic discussion?
    NAZoom Chat

    Jenn Colt  to  Everyone 11:10 AM
    We can unassigned and reassign me later if that clarifies things.

    You  to  Everyone 11:17 AM
    I don't think you've screwed anything up Jenn.

    Jenn Colt  to  Everyone 11:16 AM
    I feel like I have already screwed up my first TCR haha

    Tod Olson 11:17 AM
    Ha!brb
    I think we have the luxury of extra time, given the PC conversation.

    Marc Johnson 11:18 AM
    Not at all, you are experiencing the _quirks_ of how this stuff plays out in practice

    Maccabee Levine  to  Everyone 11:31 AM
    I'll bring this to the TCR Process Improvement subgroup, to see how we can improve getting explicit yes/no/don't care from PC

    Marc Johnson  to  Everyone 11:32 AM
    I thought Charlotte actively brought it to the PC for approval And acknowledged in that meeting that the TC process had already started

    Tod Olson 11:32 AM
    That was also my take.

    Marc Johnson  to  Everyone 11:35 AM
    I like Owen’s suggestion, especially as some modules might be more essential for inclusion than others

    You  to  Everyone 11:36 AM
    I will reach out to the RMS group letting them know the situation, good suggestion @Owen Stephens

    Jenn Colt  to  Everyone 11:37 AM
    It seems like Owen’s situation of much earlier PC acceptance is more the norm than the DCB/print timelines? At least in the past

    Owen Stephens  to  Everyone 11:39 AM
    To be fair that’s not the case

    Jenn Colt  to  Everyone 11:37 AM
    Does PC have a deadline like we do for releases?

    Marc Johnson 11:37 AM
    Not directly

    Marc Johnson 11:43 AM
    They are in the informal sequence that leads up to the flower release threshold

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