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 Jeremy Huff if next, followed by Marc Johnson 

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Maccabee Levine Tod Olson  Jakub Skoczen  Craig McNally Jenn Colt 

• CC: Maccabee Levine
• PC: Tod Olson
  • No meeting, Thanksgiving holiday (U.S.).
• RMS Group: Jakub Skoczen
• Security Team: Craig McNally
  
  • No update this week
• Tri-council Application Formalization: Jenn Colt 

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Quick updates only.  If we can't find volunteers for groups, we'll need to add the topic to our backlog and address it during dedicated discussion sessions.

• Communicating Breaking Changes - Still having trouble finding volunteers.  Let's use a Wednesday session - 03 Jan 2024 or 10 Jan 2024
  • Push to January because of the holidays and Ankita Sen will be out in December

Previous Notes:

• DR-000038 - PostgreSQL Upgrade to 16 created by Julian Ladisch . Detailed analysis has been done to check if any of the breaking changes will impact FOLIO. There are a couple of unknowns, where it can't be easily verified if FOLIO is affected.

Today:

• DR-000038 has been updated to Postgres 12 for Poppy Quesnelia and Postgres 16 for Ramsons...
• DR-000038 has been updated with the Postgres 13, 14, 15 and 16 module test results of the 35 biggest modules that access the database using modules, FOLIO has 60 database using accessing modules. Not a single issue has been found.

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• Can we move either/both of these to the next stage?
  • 0004 Date-time values must comply with IETF RFC-3339
  • 0005 Application Formalization

RFC Process Improvements:

• Application Formalization RFC - DRAFT REFINEMENT PR:  https://github.com/folio-org/rfcs/pull/22
  • Form a subgroup
• Craig McNally: We need another RFC to update the metadata retroactively to reflect the new or adjusted statuses.
  • Any volunteers?
• PR "Ask for an implementation timeline" is still open
  • Anything preventing us from merging this?

Notes:

Standing agenda item to review/discuss any requested or required changes to officially supported technology lists

• Check in on progress... does anything else require attention?

Quesnelia Officially Supported Technologies discussion:

• React ^18.2 is correct (Zak Burke)
• Zak Burke will check RTL support for React 18
• Cypress ^9.1.1: Talk to the people who use it and find out what they would like to do
• Update Grails from 5 to 6:
  • Craig McNally: I would rather make the statement that we need to go to 6; otherwise, the longer we wait and deliberate and evaluate and so forth that means it's less time for developers to do the actual work.
  • Marc Johnson: 100% completely agree

Moved to the next meeting:

• Formalize decisions on the following.  Quesnelia is the last chance to upgrade to avoid running unsupported versions:
  • Postgres 13 → Quesnelia 
  • Grails 6 → Quesnelia
• Postgres 15 → Ramsons
  • Wait until we see the result of Kitfox testing
• Attempt to move Quesnelia from DRAFT → ACCEPTED → ACTIVE since the relevant milestones have already passed.

• 29 Nov 2023 - Topic TBD
• 04 Dec 2023 - Regular TC meeting
• ...
• 02 Jan 2024 - Chairs Meeting (Tentative)