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SIG convener updates were part of the meeting.

Product Council decided that a small group will work on the agenda setting process for the Product Council. Laura is checking with other conveners as to how they set agendas in other SIGs

Option 2: Two options, close or continue to save. "Override" includes if an item is getting checked out. 

Asking PO's to review and consider.

Jennifer Eustis: "Are there distinctions made between single record update and other data imports?"  Ann-Marie - "No" 

Marmot Office: "How about another option for save as a new record?"

Felix: "Option 2 seems dangerous because the other person does not get any information that their edits are now gone." - Charlotte said, almost all POs were leaning towards Option 

Jennifer Eustis: "What about changes through the API?" - Also commented that there are various possibilities of conflicts. 

Rita Albrecht: "The ideal solution would be that the changes of both editing processes would be merged together. Some Systems are able to act like this but because we are discussing I guess FOLIO does not provide such an Option?"

Marmot Office: "I want to be able to save my changes in another record.  Then I can look at the two records and figure out which to use, or merge them manually."

Jennifer and Ann-Marie thought record transfer should be considered as another action that would or should touch optimistic locking scenarios. Scenarios are in link above. 

Feedback needed:

• By Tuesday, September 14
• Of the two options listed on the wiki and  above, which is acceptable for the first version of optimistic locking? If neither works, it will not be in Kiwi. 

Ann-Marie: "I think it's important to keep in mind that Kiwi is mainly surfacing the processes that are currently happening, and have not been identified in the UI previously. Once we can be aware of what's happening, then we can refine it."

Laura:  Will Option 1 break anything, or is there a compelling reason for Option 2?

Ann-Marie - "For Kiwi - I think it would be really good if any implemented libraries track when they see these messages, to get a better feel for when and how often it's happening."

Jessica noted that if someone is checking out a book in circ and the record is open for editing in cataloging, the checkout will go through. The cataloger then will get an error message when the cataloger tries to save the record. 

Option 1 could be viewed as the first step that can lead to more feedback.

Group settled on Option 1

Not a lot of new UI work in next release. Most of the work is "behind the scenes" in Kiwi. One UI change is changes in the summary log screen. Previously, clicking on a row would lead to a new tab with JSON versions of the records. This will still be available and errors will show. Change - the status will link directly to Instance, Holdings, or Item record in the Inventory. This opens in the same window, so back button will need to be used. 

In progress: Link to Invoice line.

The MM-SIG liked following tweaks and updates:

Image Added

On slack we had a conversation yesterday, and today (# quickmarc) - and some comments and suggested changes was raised.

Felix: "Could the headings be derived by instance source?"