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  • Implementers topics | Cross-app: UX/UI

    • Review tables across all Apps
      • MCLs
      • Request to have frozen headings on MCLs
    • Modals or other popups need to move–should not be fixed in place on the screen
      • ability to change size of modal
    • Warning Modals needed when deleting any record in any App when it is the source of truth for other records
    • Wildcards (truncation marks) need to be standardized across all Apps
    • How Dates are formatted and entered
    • Spaces handling

Minutes - wip

  • MCL = Multi column list
  • 1 use case: when there are many lines and columns on MCLs it would be helpful to fix column headers and the first row
  • there is the option in result lists to decide what will display; that could be an option to solve this; but would not be a solution for all use cases, because in many cases I need to see all columns
  • there are generally challenges in navigating a long list
  • John Coburn in chat: https://folio-org.github.io/stripes-components/?path=/story/multicolumnlist--max-height-virtualized
  • Khalilah: we could display columns based on filters 
  • freezing or pinning headings makes sense to the group
  • Khalilah in chat: I think we should support ability to filter such lists too along with allow one to change lists.
  • Martina S in chat: +1
  • Brooks in chat: Yeah, that problem didn't even occur to me, as a trackpad user with side-scrolling.
  • we should align the MCLs across apps; consistent design
  • Kristin: export option helps; you can do more in excel; e.g. order exports
    • that does not help in every situation
  • Zak: it is difficult to know what the height of each list should be
  • Charlotte in chat: Will the change of the list be per session, or something the user can customize
    • user preferences
  • Kimie in chat: JFYI - normally if the accordion contains a list of items, there is a badge with a number showing to the right of the accordion. https://folio-org.github.io/stripes-components/?path=/story/badge--basic-usage
  • Gill in chat: In some cases it seems like a full search and sort for the sub-MCLS is needed. An option to pop out a sub-MCL into out into its own full screen window with search and filter options.
  • no column pinnig at the moment
    • maybe the user could try to trigger on its own
  • potential first steps
    • display MCL full screen - maybe as part of search and filter
    • freeze header as 
    • Khalilah wants Kimie to look over
  • it would be helpful to have line numbers in result lists
    • numbers are independant from line content
    • first line will always be #1
    • have an indicator that it is a row number
  • numbers would give an ancor for clicking to see more details
    • you can define columns as never hide, this would be needed when having clickable numbers
  • export option for MCLS would be helpful
    • Kristin in chat: Maybe that would be easier if we pop out the MCL into a different window too.
    • export all data should be easy
    • there may be differences between MCLs that show all results and those that show a specific number - multi page MCLs - maybe come up with some patterns
    • resorting needs to repage
  • sorting table headers
    •  sort indicator
  • Khalilah in chat: We need to consider two patterns 1.) View lists only and 2.) View lists and take action on the lists

Chat

18:02:59 Von  Martina Schildt | VZG  an  Alle:
    Link to the agenda: https://wiki.folio.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=79493689
18:05:02 Von  Owen Stephens  an  Alle:
    Sounds incredibly cool though!
18:07:39 Von  Laura Daniels  an  Alle:
    I will not be working
18:07:44 Von  Kristin Martin  an  Alle:
    I'll be away
18:07:46 Von  Owen Stephens  an  Alle:
    I'll be here
18:07:50 Von  Maura Byrne  an  Alle:
    I can if necessary
18:10:11 Von  Owen Stephens  an  Alle:
    Multi-column List
18:10:19 Von  Jana Freytag | VZG  an  Alle:
    🙏
18:10:44 Von  Laura Daniels  an  Alle:
    as opposed to medial collateral ligament (the only ligament in the knee that will heal itself when torn)
18:14:12 Von  Dung-Lan Chen  an  Alle:
    It depends on what you are trying to do/look at
18:14:22 Von  Martina Schildt | VZG  an  Alle:
    +1 Dung-Lan
18:15:06 Von  Lloyd (Marmot Library Network)  an  Alle:
    We would never use copy number. I would like to hide that.
18:19:10 Von  JCoburn  an  Alle:
    https://folio-org.github.io/stripes-components/?path=/story/multicolumnlist--max-height-virtualized
18:20:44 Von  Martina Schildt | VZG  an  Alle:
    I see you Zak, you are next ;)
18:21:25 Von  Kimie Matsudo Kester  an  Alle:
    Freezing or pinning the column headers makes sense to me 👍
18:21:33 Von  Martina Schildt | VZG  an  Alle:
    same here +1
18:21:38 Von  Maura Byrne  an  Alle:
    +1
18:21:43 Von  Kristin Martin  an  Alle:
    +!
18:21:45 Von  Laura Daniels  an  Alle:
    +1
18:22:05 Von  Charlotte Whitt  an  Alle:
    Yes, maybe an eye symbol next to the header label.
18:23:15 Von  Khalilah Gambrell  an  Alle:
    I think we should support ability to filter such lists too along with allow one to change lists.
18:23:23 Von  Brooks Travis  an  Alle:
    Yeah, that problem didn't even occur to me, as a trackpad user with side-scrolling.
18:23:41 Von  Martina Schildt | VZG  an  Alle:
    + 1 @khalilah
18:24:29 Von  Charlotte Whitt  an  Alle:
    Will the change of the list be per session, or something the user can customize
18:25:05 Von  Kimie Matsudo Kester  an  Alle:
    JFYI - normally if the accordion contains a list of items, there is a badge with a number showing to the right of the accordion. https://folio-org.github.io/stripes-components/?path=/story/badge--basic-usage
18:28:05 Von  Kimie Matsudo Kester  an  Martina Schildt | VZG(Direktnachricht):
    You prepared an excellent agenda for this meeting. I feel that some people are sidetracking your efforts - first issue was pinning and then we somewhat started talking about other stuff that is not on your list. ;-)
18:28:49 Von  Martina Schildt | VZG  an  Kimie Matsudo Kester(Direktnachricht):
    I will try to come back, thanks ;)
18:28:54 Von  Maura Byrne  an  Alle:
    Does the list of columns show up better if the user closes the “Search and filter" frame?
18:29:29 Von  Brooks Travis  an  Alle:
    Could we consider a standard full-screen list view that could be invoked for all MCLs?
18:29:45 Von  Maura Byrne  an  Alle:
    +1 Brooks
18:30:11 Von  Lloyd (Marmot Library Network)  an  Alle:
    +1 Brooks
18:30:58 Von  Khalilah Gambrell  an  Alle:
    What other problems do folks have with viewing/navigating long lists on a detail record?
18:31:21 Von  Laura Daniels  an  Alle:
    +1 to Zak's point about hiding and forgetting that one has hidden something
18:31:44 Von  Laura Daniels  an  Alle:
    I often forget I've selected facets for my search!
18:34:24 Von  Gill Osguthorpe  an  Alle:
    In some cases it seems like a full search and sort for the sub-MCLS is needed. An option to pop out a sub-MCL into out into its own full screen window with search and filter options.
18:35:07 Von  Owen Stephens  an  Alle:
    That seems like a nice idea
18:35:50 Von  Martina Schildt | VZG  an  Alle:
    +1 Gill
18:35:57 Von  Khalilah Gambrell  an  Alle:
    @Gil - eholdings has a search/filter within a list feature.
18:36:23 Von  Charlotte Whitt  an  Alle:
    I like the full screen option too
18:37:07 Von  Charlotte Whitt  an  Alle:
    View in full screen as a temporary view, and then you can click out of that, and will be back in the three pane layout
18:37:23 Von  Maura Byrne  an  Alle:
    +1 Charlotte
18:40:28 Von  Gill Osguthorpe  an  Alle:
    @Khalilah 👍🏼I've seen the filter for eHoldings, it's nice.
18:46:16 Von  Lloyd (Marmot Library Network)  an  Alle:
    +1 for line numbers
18:53:17 Von  Kristin Martin  an  Alle:
    Maybe that would be easier if we pop out the MCL into a different window too.
18:55:47 Von  Khalilah Gambrell  an  Alle:
    We need to consider two patterns 1.) View lists only and 2.) View lists and take action on the lists
19:00:31 Von  Charlotte Whitt  an  Alle:
    Yes, sounds great Martina
19:00:42 Von  Dung-Lan Chen  an  Alle:
    Allow user to set how many records from the result list can be displayed before one keeps clicking on "next" button to get to see more?!
19:00:54 Von  Owen Stephens  an  Alle:
    For me as a PO I have to admit it's easy to overlook including making each column in the MCL sortable

Attendees

Present

Name

Home Organization


Ann-Marie Breaux

EBSCO

x

Brooks Travis

EBSCO

x

Charlotte Whitt

Index Data

regrets

Dennis Bridges

EBSCO

xDung-Lan ChenSkidmore College
x

Gill Osguthorpe

UX/UI Designer - K-Int


Heather McMillan Thoele

TAMU


Ian Ibbotson

Developer Lead - K-Int

x

Jana Freytag

VZG, Göttingen

x

Khalilah Gambrell

EBSCO

regrets

Kirstin Kemner-Heek  

VZG, Göttingen

x

Kristin Martin

Chicago

x

Laura Daniels

Cornell

x

Lloyd Chittenden

Marmot Library Network

x

Martina Schildt

VZG, Göttingen

x

Martina Tumulla

hbz, Cologne

x

Maura Byrne

Chicago


Mike Gorrell

Index Data

x

Owen Stephens

Product Owner -  Owen Stephens Consulting


Patty Wanninger

EBSCO

xSara ColglazierFive Colleges / Mount Holyoke College Library
xKimie KesterEBSCO
xJohn CoburnEBSCO
xZak BurkeEBSCO

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