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Craig McNally is next, but it might be tricky since I will likely be fairly engaged in the conversation.

Tod Olson is out (I think)

Jason Root will take notes

Reminder:  Please copy/paste the Zoom chat into the notes.  If you miss it, this is saved along with the meeting recording, but having it here has benefits.

60 minEureka Adoption All
  • Timing of Eureka adoption and Okapi retirement
  • How does the TCR process factor into this?
  • Updating the OST pages?
  • What would be the practical implications of making Trillium rather than Sunflower the Eureka release?

Notes

Craig: What happens if the adoption gets pushed further to another FOLIO release?

List of modules for an RFC? - impressive list

Julian points out there are 2 decisions here:

Do we adopt for Sunflower even though it's technically past that deadline? The approved technology stack is already approved for Sunflower

Is there an overlap period for supporting both Okapi/Eureka?

SSO/login modules have completely changed in Eureka


Marc Johnson: Does the community approve adopting Eureka in the first place?

Do we have a special process for this?

Points out Ebsco is a large contributor to the community technically

The assumption - At some point if Eureka is adopted by the community at large, is it a given that Okapi envs will stop being supported by the community at large?

There are a set of decisions that need to be made - Community support? Adoption? Need a transition plan? How do we structure these decisions?

Multiple options on the table:

Support Eureka and Eureka only from Sunflower.

Combined support from Sunflower until a future release.

Support Okapi for more long term with transition plan

Next steps? Experience in early adopter program?


Craig: Cost implications for supporting both Okapi/Eureka

Several back-end modules for login no longer needed in Eureka

Over time less code that needs to be maintained, management users and tokens handled at a higher level

Concrete action items?


Jen: Isn't the community technically supporting both at the moment?

We are making a decision for the whole community here

Is it true that development is supported with Okapi on Sunflower? Or after?

Is the early adopter program an actual program?


Vince: Lots of effort to test both environments

Development could shift to primarily Eureka environments in Rancher

New modules have a different workflows, and a different permissions model on the management level

New development is being done on Eureka, if it needs to be tested on Okapi - but who would be addressing these issues? Another way is not to do that, and support the other way around


Jason: Putting the cart before the horse - still need to vote on adoption or not

Asks about what development resources would be shifted or different with Okapi vs Eureka

We need to decide if there's a transition plan, because some have stated you can just run on Okapi?

Who in the community would support this? Not many outside of Ebsco who have exp. with running the platform right now


Kristin: Needs to be able to organize their platforms

Points out that this platform is currently only running on AWS infra - no "local" or "non-AWS" examples out there

Will Eureka be supported for local installations? Adoption needs to be planned securely and sustainably

Locally needs to be vetted for local installations by the community


Mark V: The more people that start getting involved in the early adoption, the better off we'll be


Overall chicken in egg scenario: Community is blocked on adoption until TC agrees, but community doesn't have experience to help in deciding to adopt

Craig, Mark and Vince will come up with narrowed options based on discussion.



Background

Slack conversations:


RFC in preparation:

Relevant dates:

  • Sunflower OST acceptance: Sept 27, 2024
  • Sunflower scope deadline: Sept 27, 2024
  • January tri-council meeting: Jan 13, 2025
  • Sunflower API freeze? Jan 24 2025
  • Sunflower module acceptance deadline: Jan 24, 2025
  • FOLIO support period is the current release and two releases back? Officially Supported Technologies
  • RFC public review timebox: 1 month
-Zoom Chat



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