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Attendees

Guests: Ian Walls

Discussion items

ItemWhoNotes
Discussion of App Inclusion in FOLIO

The PC discussed the challenge highlighted by the LDP App exercise related to acceptance criteria for modules. There continues to be discussion in the community about the best way forward. There's been a suggestion that a cross council task force be assembled. We wanted to raise this in community council to see if there were any members who wanted to be on a task force.

Ian Walls report:

  • TC talked about procedure questions in the last meetings
  • Discussion is often very intense and engaged - but maybe not very productive
  • Clarify "what is the TC" is more in the focus than "make things happen"

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  • Simeon: separate 2 things:
    • Move things forward seems to be an issue - inablitity to make a decsion
    • Talk about specific agenda items. like LDP in the past
  • Harry
    • TC had not the time after the election to sort their processes out → was very much forced into action
  • Ian W.
    • TC is missing diversity in comparison with other councils
  • Mike
    • TC chair for some time: people in there tend to have very different opinions
    • Challenge to steer such a committee
  • Ian I.
    • Need for a strong chair is very obvious
    • Enable all people to share their views - let everyone talk 
  • Harry
    • Voting process was difficult  (LDP) - members tend to find a better solution? Simple majority?
    • Has the result of the vote the necessary outcome and is followe up for a result?
  • Ian I
    • From Mark J.: Voting for LDP was discussed with  different focus'  →  no agreement about the wished outcome
    • from chat: I think confrontation was the right word there in this case - disagreement is expected and healthy
  • Ian W:
    • More explanation about what happend: a short review of the steps that has happend
    • Deadline was unclear in regard to integrate the LDP app into the Kiwi release
    • Proposal was not discussed in the meeting → asyncronous voting was tested for the first time 
    • Vote was very close
  • Mike 
    • Rules of engagement for councils
    • Voting processes
    • Private meetings?
  • Kirstin
    • Entangle process from finding concrete solutions for certain question (especially under time pressure)
    • Maybe private preparation meetings can help to avoid conflicts
  • Simeon
    • Private meetings may be helpful?   Is this correct?
  • Harry
    • TC has grown, is harder to come to consensus
    • Need some time to organzie
  • Mike
    • just from 9 to 11   (Harry: but more to attend)
  • Ian I
    • To much on the agenda to discuss with results in an hour
Liaison with Tech CouncilSeveral people talked about the potential of having liaisons between all councils. Currently there are liaisons between CC and PC and TC and PC but not between CC and TC. Would anyone like to volunteer?
Review of regular meetings, input on potential new onesThe Capacity Planning team is drafting a charter for it (likely will include changing the name from Capacity Planning to Release Planning Group)... but in that conversation a list of meetings that are happening regularly was created. Let's review and see if we think others might be valuable. 
UpdatesTeamAny updates from any previous actions/subgroups.

Parking lot:

Guidelines about channels (private, etc.)



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