Anuar to Everyone 11:17 AM
Hi everyone. Sorry for being late Maccabee Levine 11:18 AM
Hi and nice to meet you! Anuar 11:24 AM
Likewise You to Everyone 11:27 AM
Welcome Anuar! Marc Johnson to Everyone 11:27 AM
The breaking changes RFC was an outlier anyway because most of the vocal folks in the TC had been involved in writing it You to Everyone 11:27 AM
JFYI Anuar is serving as Tara's proxy today, and likely next week too Marc Johnson to Everyone 11:27 AM
I’d also be inclined to move it to public review even if I disagree with the details Maccabee Levine to Everyone 11:30 AM
I am all for giving feedback during the draft review. I was saying I might vote to approve even if I think *others* (i.e. public) might object at that later stage Maccabee Levine 11:30 AM
And then I might ultimately vote not based on that public feedback. (Or not) Maccabee Levine to Everyone 11:32 AM
++ Draft Refinement Marc Johnson to Everyone 11:37 AM
That’s what I meant when I said I’d proceed to the public review and raise the concern there Marc Johnson to Everyone 11:43 AM
Folks are right that I have concerns about the combinatorial complexity in FOLIO And whilst I accept expansion in that area for transitional purposes Those options tend to hang around afterwards This is where the refresh tokens is different to the Kafka changes, because the former has a plan to remove some of the options / paths, whereas Julian’s feedback on Kafka led to perpetually having two completely different configuration options I have similar concerns with apps and modules co-existing in perpetuity Jenn Colt 11:45 AM
It would be interesting to know if these types of concerns could be addressed at all via the ‘platforms’, like is what kafka config is used part of a platform definition? Marc Johnson 11:48 AM
Possibly, that probably depends upon the details of each proposal The Kafka options are potentially messier because they can vary at the module level and is independent of the choice of combination of modules (which is all platforms are AFAIK) Maccabee Levine to Everyone 11:44 AM
In "Draft Refinement" TC might still need to vote, just to indicate that we're ready for public review Marc Johnson 11:44 AM
Like the TCR, the group provides a recommendation, the TC signs off Marc Johnson to Everyone 11:46 AM
Reference implementations are where I get the “development starts before the RFC is approved” concern from Jenn Colt to Everyone 11:50 AM
Some of that should happen during small group recruitment too Marc Johnson 11:52 AM
Maybe we should add that as part of draft refinement?
That the group should represent the impacted audiences Jenn Colt 11:52 AM
Step 3 kind of says it Tod Olson to Everyone 11:53 AM
That sounds right, make the announcement at every stage and be clear what stage the RFC is at. Marc Johnson 11:54 AM
That relies on the audiences understanding what they are expected to do at each stage Jenn Colt to Everyone 11:55 AM
Making the small group as good as possible seems like where TC should spend time Maccabee Levine to Everyone 12:00 PM
Sorry I have to drop off, another meeting Marc Johnson to Everyone 12:00 PM
Translations is a good example here. Any technical solution really relies on a good understanding of the product needs |