2026-05-11 Meeting Notes

2026-05-11 Meeting Notes

May 11, 2026

Attendees

  • @Christie Thomas

  • @Charlotte Whitt

  • @Jenn Colt

  • @Shelley Doljack

  • @Florian Gleixner

  • @Ingolf Kuss

  • @Kevin Day

  • @Jeff Gerhard

  • @Maccabee Levine

  • @Wayne Schneider

  • @Matt Weaver

  • @Olamide Kolawole

  • @Craig McNally

  • @Julian Ladisch

Time

Item

Who

Notes

Time

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Who

Notes

1 min

Scribe

 

@Julian Ladisch followed by @Maccabee Levine

Reminder:  Please take attendance. Please paste the Zoom chat into the notes.  If you miss it, this is saved along with the meeting recording, but having it here has benefits.

5-15 min

Liaison Updates

@Maccabee Levine

@Christie Thomas

@Craig McNally

  • CC:  @Maccabee Levine , @Wayne Schneider

    • AWS costs report. Defined proposal on what is "truly shared infrastructure" that community should pay for (starting FY27) -- everyone benefits, not just used by a single team. 2.5x spike on bugfest and performance testing costs vs. FY26 (reflecting EBSCO’s actual costs for performance testing). New AI AWS costs about $1k/month (chat-bot for Eureka support, and for development; for automating performance test running). Looking for CC approval (or changes) on it, and then plan for transitioning from current behavior.

    • (Overall) FY27 Budget proposal, showing draft scenarios. CC proposing column H, assuming EBSCO continues its current funding.

      • So AWS costs change would not be for FY27, but work would need to happen to cut costs, scale up membership, make clear the difference if we want to move towards 'truly shared infrastructure’ model.

    • @Charlotte Whitt asks that not only EPAM dev teams, but other development teams can also use the AI AWS tools.

    • https://folio-org.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/SIG/pages/1812725766

  • PC: @Christie Thomas

    • Community Directed Development subgroup has finalized the mvp for the Development Initiative Proposal. PC is currently providing feedback and the subgroup will present at the PC meeting on May 21, 2026.

    • RMS & Communication Subgroups are recommending changes to the FOLIO wiki to support better discovery and understanding of release notes, functionality, and project news. Chair will meet with CC to discuss proposed changes.

    • Umbrellaleaf functionality review pilot - discussed findings from recent efforts to review all Umbrellaleaf Jiras for new functionality that warrants PC engagement.

    • WOLFcon schedule will be published soon.

  • RMS Group: @Jenn Colt

    • Trillium updates. Short discussion of the config management proposal

  • Security Team: @Julian Ladisch

    • nothing worth to report

  • Eureka Early Adopters:  @Craig McNally:

  • AWS Costs: @Wayne Schneider

    • Truly Shared Infrastructure presented at CC

 

Environment variable RFC

 

@Olamide Kolawole has posted a timeline proposal on #folio-tc-internal

RFC to be submitted by @Oleksii Petrenko .

5 min

Upcoming Meetings

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  • May 11, 2026 Regular Meeting

  • May 13, 2026 TBD


  • Dedicated Discussion Topics:

    • Developer wolfcon survey

    • https://folio-org.atlassian.net/wiki/x/VQBTR

    • FOLIO API Standardization & Documentation

      • Surface current issues with API documentation and discoverability. API versioning ability and access by release/module?

      • Validation standards

      • API usage for bulk operations

      • Breaking changes notifications

        • Dedicated channel for breaking changes announcements (forwarded from #folio-development)

        • Tag breaking changes in Jira; auto-populate wiki page for external monitoring

    • Define FOLIO Core: Establish clear definition of what constitutes “core” FOLIO vs others.

      • what should integrate vs what needs to be in FOLIO

      • Simplification opportunities

    • Cost Reduction & Resource Optimizations

      • Sidecar proliferation

      • Kafka usage visibility and optimization

      • AWS cost analysis

    • wOLFcon Technical Track Planning: Proposal for technical conference track alongside general wolfcon. Ensure non-developer access

      • Format options: virtual conference, two-day technical overlay, hybrid

      • Employer outreach for developer/operations engineer participation

      • FOLIO contribution vehicle

    • Technology Visibility & Scanning: Automated scanning and reporting on FOLIO technology stack

      • leverage existing work by David Crossley

      • Language and framework scanning

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  • Topics from Wolfcon sessions that could get into dedicated discussion

    • Folio “Core” definition

    • Estimating support costs

    • Getting People to contribute to Folio

    • Working costs of supporting modules

    • Costs of development environment (AWS)

  • Security team DR for support periods- Sep 17, 2025

5 min

Dev ops. update

@Wayne Schneider

 

Today:

@Wayne Schneider : What happens with platform-complete repository after switch to Eureka. There is no intention to maintain platform-complete for Trillium.

@Ingolf Kuss will try to use platform-lsp instead to build the Docker container.

@Wayne Schneider Module federation is not targeted for Trillium. It is a option, but not yet the reference.

10 min

TCR Board Review

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0 min

Existing Module Evaluation

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  • @Olamide Kolawole demonstrates Jira management of TCR project using parent tickets and subtasks

  • Approved by lazy consensus.

  • Can start with app-platform-minimal list of basic modules.

0 min

Technical Council Sub-Groups Updates

All

Zero active subgroups

 

0 min

GitHub RFCs

Wiki RFCs

All

 

0 min

Decision Log

All

 

 

0 min

Officially Supported Technologies (OST)

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  • We won’t know Umbrellaleaf dates until Trillium comes out (GA approx June 8)

  • Umbrellaleaf

  • @Julian Ladisch recommends doing some prework

  • @Maccabee Levine recommends adding Recurring Calendar as a standing agenda item

0 min

https://folio-org.atlassian.net/wiki/x/HwCJDQ

@Jenn Colt @Olamide Kolawole

 

 

Zoom Chat

 

Shelley Doljack: The folio-eureka-ea-agent is very useful; it’s gotten better now.

Charlotte Whitt: Is this AI tool for e2e test scripting available for all development teams?

Maccabee Levine: It was included on the proposed list of 'truly shared infrastructure', which was defined as things usable by all of the teams, so I'd assume yes it's available to anyone.

Charlotte Whitt: Sounds hopefully

Maccabee Levine: The proposed list is linked here in the minutes ("defined proposal")

Charlotte Whitt: + 100 Jenn

Maccabee Levine: https://folio-org.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/SIG/pages/1812725766

Wayne Schneider: app-platform-minimal to start?
Olamide Kolawole:👍

 

 



Topic Backlog

Decision Log Review

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Review decisions that are in progress.  Can any of them be accepted?  rejected?

Translation Subgroup

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Since we're having trouble finding volunteers for a subgroup, maybe we can make progress during a dedicated discussion session?

Communicating Breaking Changes

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Currently there is a PoC, developed by @Maccabee Levine, of a utility to catalog Github PRs that have been labeled with the "breaking change" label. We would like to get developer feedback on the feasibility of this label being used more often, and the usefulness of this utility. 

Officially Supported Technologies - Upkeep

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Previous Notes:

  • A workflow for these pages. When do they transition from one state to another. Do we even need statuses at all ?

Stripes architecture group has some questions about the Poppy release.

Zak: A handshake between developers, dev ops and the TC. Who makes that decision and how do we pass along that knowledge ? E.g. changes in Nodes and in the UI boxes. How to communicate this ? We have a large number of teams, all have to be aware of it.  TC should be alerted that changes are happening. We have a couple of dedicated channels for that. Most dev ops have subscribed to these channels. How can dev ops folk raise issues to the next level of community awareness ? There hasn't been a specific piece of TC to move that along.

Craig: There is a fourth group, "Capacity Planning" or "Release Planning". Slack is the de facto communication channel.  There are no objections to using Slack. An example is the Java 17 RFC. 

Craig: The TC gets it on the agenda and we will discuss it. The TC gets the final say.

Marc Johnson: We shouldn’t use the DevOps Channel. The dev ops folks have made it clear that it should only be used for support requests made to them.

Jakub: Our responsibility is to avoid piling up technical debt.

Marc: Some set of people have to actually make the call. Who lowers the chequered flag ?

Craig: It needs to ultimately come to the TC at least for awareness. There is a missing piece. Capacity Planning needs to provide input here. 

Marc: Stakeholders / Capacity Planning could make that decision. Who makes the decision ? Is it the government or is it some parts of the body ?

Marc: the developers community, the dev ops community and sys ops are involved. For example the Spring Framework discussion or the Java 17 discussion. But it was completely separate to the TC decision. It is a coordination and communication effort.

Marc: Maybe the TC needs to let go that they are the decision makers so that they be a moderating group.

Jakub: I agree with Marc. But we are not a system operating group. Dependency management should be in the responsibility of Release management. There are structures in the project for that.

Jason Root: I agree with Jakub and with Marc also. Policies should drive operational/release/support aspects of Folio.

Jason Root: If the idea of “support” is that frameworks are supported, then of course the project should meet that.

Marc Johnson
Some group needs to inform OleksAii when a relevant policy event occurs.
These documents effectively ARE the manifestation of the policy.

Craig: This is a topic for the next Monday session.

Craig to see if Oleksii Petrenko could join us to discuss the process for updating the officially supported technologies lists.



Dev Documentation Visibility

All

Possible topic/activity for a Wednesday session:

Discuss/brainstorm:

  • Ideas for the type of developer-facing documentation we think would be most helpful for new developers

  • How we might bring existing documentation up to date and ensure it's consistent 

  • etc.

API linting within our backend modules

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https://folio-project.slack.com/archives/CAQ7L02PP/p1713343461518409



Hello team, I would like to discuss API linting within our backend modules. Some time ago, we transitioned our linting process from Jenkins to GitHub Actions as outlined in https://folio-org.atlassian.net/browse/FOLIO-3678. I am assuming that this move was done via some technical council decision. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
In my observations, I've found two problems:

  1. Schema linting does not occur if the schemas are in YAML format.

  2. There are issues with resolving some deeper references during API linting.

Although I'm unsure about how to improve the existing linting implementations within Folio, I propose to consider an open-source solution that handles OpenAPI linting effectively and allows us to define custom rules. For your reference: https://stoplight.io/open-source/spectral A test of this solution can be found in this PR: https://github.com/folio-org/mod-search/pull/567. The same PR also provides an example of custom rule definition: https://github.com/folio-org/mod-search/pull/567/files#diff-d5da7cb43c444434994b76f3b04aa6e702c09e938de09dbc09d72569d611d9ab.Also, by employing 'Spectral', I discovered AsyncAPI (https://www.asyncapi.com/en), an API design tool similar to OpenAPI but for asynchronous interactions. I suggest that we consider using AsyncAPI in FOLIO to generate documentation for Kafka interactions.



PR Templates

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https://folio-project.slack.com/archives/CAQ7L02PP/p1713445649504769

Hello team, Small request to consider.
Regarding pr templates.

  1. From my perspective, pr template is not good idea. Even the biggest open source projects that are contributed by many people don't have any pr template. Currently what we have for acq modules https://github.com/folio-org/mod-orders-storage/blob/master/PULL_REQUEST_TEMPLATE.md

  2. These pr template is inconsistent in different teams.

What I suggest is that, pr template shouldn't be any instructions, because most developer who are creating pr have already understand the rules. If we put just two section into template, it will encourage developers to write more about their work and that lead to knowledge  sharing among developers.

Proposed Mod Kafka

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https://folio-project.slack.com/archives/CAQ7L02PP/p1714471592534689

Mike Taylor

Proposal. If and only if a FOLIO instance is running Kafka, it should insert and enable a module called mod-kafka, which consists entirely of a module descriptor that says it provides the interface kafka. The purpose is so that other modules can use the standard <IfInterface> and similar tools to determine whether they should attempt Kafka operations. Rationale: the FOLIO ILS depends absolutely on Kafka, but other uses of the platform will not. One such example: a dev platform that includes only mod-users, used as a source of change events for Metadb.