FOLIO Product Council Sub Group on the Re-Architecting's Impact on the Product Council (Tri-Council)

This PC sub group is at looking at the impact on the Product Council from the re-architecting proposal or vision that was presented by Vince at WOLFCon 2023. How can we position the Product Council to lead or help the community through the non-technical aspects of the discussion and eventual action plan?

Owen Stephens

Brooks Travis

Charlotte Whitt

Jesse Koennecke - convener

Meeting Monday - 8:30-9:30 Eastern - September 11-October 16

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Topic: FOLIO Re-Architecting's Impact on the Product Council

Time: Sep 18, 2023 08:30 AM Eastern Time (US and Canada)

        Every week on Mon, until Oct 16, 2023, 5 occurrence(s)

        Sep 18, 2023 08:30 AM

        Sep 25, 2023 08:30 AM

        Oct 2, 2023 08:30 AM

        Oct 9, 2023 08:30 AM

        Oct 16, 2023 08:30 AM

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Meeting notes from the tri-council meeting on 8/25/2023: 

• How do we advance the architectural reworking that Vince/Tod and others discussed. How is this broken up?

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  • Larger architectural roadmap and the part of refactoring and redrawing the microservices boundaries

  • We need to capture details, get it down on paper and get it reviewed. Formalize the formalization of the architecture

  • Strong governance implications

  • PC is interested in engaging with process to understand implications and make sure it works for the product

  • Large communication issue: how should the community engage with the change

  • This work will define what a “product” is, so what will be managed by the PC?

  • Is an App in Vince's paper the same as an App that a SIG would think of? PC very interested in this issue and the implications

  • Working together will help us find a common point of reference

  • Platform may be a second phase

  • There is a strong architectural cases, questions are in the community/product sides

  • Adopting this architecture does not force us to change our processes, but enables us to change our processes

  • Maybe TC can provide a report with “these are potential questions that this shift might raise”--gather from all of the councils

  • Applications is the first step, then “platforms”

  • Political, practical, and technical process

  • Can we construct a managed process to speed this up, not slow it down

  • Clear need for an RFC process

  • Clear need for add’l process to discuss / address additional questions on related domains

  • Would be useful to get an authoritative “package” of info and questions ASAP to address knowledge/ information gaps

  • Craig will pull together a list of relevant presentations and highlight items that are important

  • Technical Architecture Evolution

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    • Applications 

    • Platforms

    • Authentication / Security 

  • We will do Applications First

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    • Craig will gather and synthesize docs describing the Apps

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      • Applications And The Management Thereof

      • Folio Platforms

      • 2023 WOLFcon Architectural Blueprint

      • Folio And Next Level AuthN Z

    • Jeremy, Tod, Maccabee, Craig volunteer to help surface ideas and needs, scope, questions – the “non-technical questions” – 6 weeks

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      • Some of these challenges/questions have been identified in the various presentations

    • Craig identified need to help run the RFC processes within TC

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      • TC will begin the RFC process during this 6 week window

      • RFC process is lengthy – do not expect it to come to conclusion within 6 weeks. 

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        • RFC Process documentation: https://folio-org.atlassian.net/wiki/display/TC/RFC+Process 

      • (NB: Craig also volunteered to help with overall coordination)

• TriCouncil meeting in ~6 weeks 

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  • Thursday, October 12 at 6:30 AM PT (PC meeting slot)

  • 90 min

  • Tricouncil Chairs will distributes the Zoom link  https://zoom.us/j/867230970 

• Owen volunteers to help with managing PC-related threads

• We need the generation of a plan, and then the management of that plan to follow through

  • This will require some allocation of development effort for the creation of Application Manager as well as changes to existing code

  • Time frame: 6-8 weeks for first steps