2025-08-21 Product Council Agenda and Minutes

2025-08-21 Product Council Agenda and Minutes

 Date

 Participants

  • PC Members: @Jennifer Eustis @Jana Freytag @Thomas Trutt @Charlotte Whitt @Lisa McColl @Alexis Manheim @Caitlin Stewart

  • Other Attendees: @Nicole Trujillo @Demian Katz @Peter Murray @Tammy Wolf (Deactivated) @Gang Zhou

  • Regrets: @Jeremy Huff @Tod Olson @Autumn Faulkner @Martin Scholz

  • Note taker: @Alexis Manheim

Recording

21-Aug-2025 10:00 Eastern U.S. time

Highlights for Monthly Newsletter

Mosaic endorsement, what the PC is working on (high level) with new members and focus, updated liaisons, prioritization dashboard progress.

 Discussion topics

Time

Item

Presenter

Notes

Time

Item

Presenter

Notes

5 min

Welcome & Announcements

all

Tri- Council meeting next week

SIG Reports Due Today

WOLFCOn – Still time to register for Kansas City! Conference hotel group rates available. Shoulder meetings on Friday and being added to Sched once inverted timing (all councils in morning, individual councils in the afternoon) is confirmed with Council chairs.

SIG reports due today but reminder sent out late. Kristin Martin used to do SIG report reminders, but Jennifer will going forward. Maybe we want to halt reports in the summer or fewer? One for July and August? Every other month? TBD.

At the Community Council meeting on Aug 11, 2025there were presentations of three proposals designed to get the group to think about how we can gain a “Common understanding and agreement on core challenges facing FOLIO with regard to community-sustained software development.” After the presentations, everyone present added their top three problems and solutions to a shared doc. I suspect we will hear more about this at the Tri-Council meeting next week, but if not then, definitely at WOLFCon. (Alexis)

PC members should read documents in advance of Tri-Council meeting. Also, Jeremy and Caitlin are giving a status update on community prioritization and Community directed development efforts at Tri-Council meeting next week.

Housekeeping

5 min

 

 

Status of Mosaic Endorsement: overwhelmingly positive endorsement vote, Caitlin will follow up on decision log, etc.

New Template (Caitlin): I created a new meeting notes template. It’s called Product Council Agenda / Notes and I’m having a hard time getting it to surface in some of the places I’d like to see it (like the Create from Template macro) but it’s a step in the right direction! Does anyone have feedback on the template?

Charlotte suggested reducing to 3 columns, putting time next to agenda item to leave more room for notes. Caitlin will make that change.

Community Newsletter (Caitlin): The council chairs are exploring starting a newsletter to improve communication and lower barriers to engagement. over the next few weeks we’ll be gathering topics for newsletter so that we can put together a prototype and determine the frequency, means of distribution, etc. I have added a little purple box to the top of our notes page to flag topics that we might want to cover in such a newsletter.

Proposal - Turn on AI notes in Zoom

  • Recently a few of our notetakers have used AI summary tools to assist with note- taking.

Discussion: Makes Alexis and Charlotte uncomfortable to rely on them too much. They can get things really wrong. We cam use it with caution and make sure to review what is generated. Text can look good but content is incorrect or missing important information. Synthesis is important. We will experiment by capturing info in two ways, both with AI and a human note taker.

 

5 min

Meeting Summary Page

 

Problem: It is difficult for community members to keep track of which groups meet when and get a sense of all the action happening in the community.

Proposal: Use Confluence Page properties report feature to create a single page where community members can find out when all the SIGs meet and understand what they currently working on.

What SIGs need to do:

  • Add standard metadata their home page enclosed in the Page Properties macro - see https://folio-org.atlassian.net/wiki/x/AQDnQw

  • Tag that page with a label - I’ve used “mtg_summary”

  • Keep the “Upcoming Topics” field up to day for the new 2-3 meetings

Outcome: Meeting info will automatically propagate to a central report that we could link off the FOLIO homepage. Seehttps://folio-org.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/PC/pages/1139179533

Questions:

  • Is this doable?

  • How do you feel about these fields - anything missing?

  • Any other feedback

  • Discussion:

    Can we leverage the SIG convener quarterly meeting to talk about this and see if SIGs are on board? Or use the SIG reports somehow? Charlotte suggested including info on most recent topics discussed, not just what is going to be discussed. Index of agenda topics from past meetings? Caitlin said this may or may not be possible with this feature. 

    Jennifer said sometimes SIGs just talk about JIRAs and add notes to the issues and nothing to actual notes. Maybe do prioritization first and then do this next? A lot of work to go back to older meeting notes, or maybe we just start this going forward.

    Conclusion: Start with MVP for Meeting Summary Page, be clear about what we are asking the SIGs to do, and not put too much on them at one time.

10 min

SIG Reports - Revisit goals

 

 

Updates on Active Initiatives

5 min

Check in on Community Priorities

 

Subgroup formed to create rubric and definitions to use in the rubric. Will circulate for feedback in the coming weeks. Need to coordinate with POs. Caitlin attending PO meeting next week to discuss.

10 min

Discuss Discovery SIG top 5

@Demian Katz

@Nicole Trujillo

  1. UXPROD-4805: API endpoint for batch renewal
    Draft

  2. Tell the Discovery system what item is holdable. UXPROD-2422: Discovery Integrations - Expose Circulation Rules Regarding Requests
    Draft

  3. Tell the Discovery system what item is renewable

  4. Ability to Sort Items in FOLIO so that the Discovery system does not have to sort 10,000+ items on the fly UXPROD-5257: Analysis: Re-order item records via API
    In Review

  5. UXPROD-1625: Re-order Item records via UI
    In Progress

https://folio-org.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/PC/pages/931070022

Nicole (SIG convener): Top 5 JIRAs. Many are for Requests. Damien talked through these. Mostly performance and functionality gaps. See above.

Sorting is also on the MM SIGs priority list.

Thomas had questions about #s 2 and 3. Are they for users already logged in? Damien: Yes. Complexity of request system is a factor. Batch renewals has come up a lot in RA SIG. What data is returned and in what format? Ticket has a proposal for what that would be, but may need to be refined.

Caitlin: A few of these UXPRODs are still in draft. Should these be out of draft before they go to the final list? Nicole: They are still trying to understand the JIRA process. There is no PO for the Discovery SIG. How does something go from Draft to Open and what role does the SIG play? Thomas: without a PO, could talk to the PO that is the most related to the area and ask if they think there is enough info in the Jira to be moved to Open status? Once there, dev teams can pick it up. Back and front end devs will refine more.

Charlotte (from chat): Generally, if a feature (UXPROD) does not have underlying Jira Item tickets (stories) written up, the the feature is still in Draft. A feature will move to Open, when all defining tickets are written up, and is dev ready for the Development teams. The more details, the better.

Nicole asked about an overview of the process with list of POs? Charlotte shared these links:

Directory of POs: https://folio-org.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/PO/pages/2667876

FOLIO Module/JIRA project-Team-PO-Dev Lead responsibility - FOLIO Module/JIRA project-Team-PO-Dev Lead responsibility matrix

Jira status - JIRA status

New Topics

15 min

PC vision workshop @ WOLFCon

 

What is a vision workshop?

What do we need to achieve?

How can we do this effectively?

@Jennifer Eustis and @Alexis Manheim will help plan this workshop

Kristin’s Vision doc:

Planning

5 min

Newsletter topics

 

Possible topics: Mosaic endorsement, what the PC is working on (high level) with new members and focus, updated liaisons, prioritization dashboard progress.

10 min

Define agendas for next 2 meetings

 

 

 Related materials


📄 Meeting Minutes:

Meeting Chat:

00:03:07 Alexis Manheim: https://folio-org.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/PC/pages/1170964483
00:07:25 Thomas Trutt: I do like that idea.. For implementors our report was just going to be — On break till August
00:13:34 Thomas Trutt: 4 is the magic number. :)
00:13:58 Charlotte Whitt: Reacted to "4 is the magic numbe..." with 🤓
00:14:39 Charlotte Whitt: I like the newsletter idea
00:15:44 Charlotte Whitt: + 1 Alexis
00:16:48 Thomas Trutt: Sorry family drama is going on.. I had to run briefly.
00:18:00 Jennifer Eustis: Don't we have a group of volunteer notetakers?
00:18:11 Charlotte Whitt: Reacted to "Don't we have a grou..." with 👍
00:18:19 Peter Murray: (My version of Family Drama was just having the cat capture and start eating a monarch butterfly. Bad Alan!)
00:18:33 Jennifer Eustis: Reacted to "(My version of Famil..." with 😄
00:18:43 Thomas Trutt: Replying to "(My version of Famil..."

LOL.. I wish that was my drama right now..
00:19:58 Charlotte Whitt: Caitlyn, you moved on, but I’d like to suggest, that we also post a description on how to update the PC calendar.
00:20:10 Charlotte Whitt: Currently the PC calendar is not up to date
00:21:27 Peter Murray: I've turned on the AI Meeting Companion in the meeting settings — it will be effective for the next PC meeting.
00:21:36 Thomas Trutt: Reacted to "I've turned on the A..." with ❤️
00:21:49 Stewart, Caitlin: Should I stop sharing?
00:22:51 Thomas Trutt: I do have some questions / concerns on 2 and 3..
00:24:17 Thomas Trutt: — for 4805 I think it would have to be really flushed out how errors are handled, what data is returned.
00:26:49 Charlotte Whitt: UXPROD-1625 is also listed on the MM-SIGs prioritized features
00:26:56 Stewart, Caitlin: Reacted to "UXPROD-1625 is also ..." with ❤️
00:27:40 Tammy Wolf: We have this exact same problem in Locate.
00:28:43 Tammy Wolf: We need a larger solution
00:30:04 Stewart, Caitlin: https://folio-org.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/PC/pages/931070022
00:34:08 Charlotte Whitt: Generally: If a feature (UXPROD) does not have underlying Jira Item tickets (stories) written up, the the feature is still in Draft.
A feature will move to Open, when all defining tickets are written up, and is dev ready for the Development teams
00:36:35 Charlotte Whitt: Directory of POs: https://folio-org.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/PO/pages/2667876
00:36:43 Thomas Trutt: Reacted to "Directory of POs: ht..." with ❤️
00:37:49 Charlotte Whitt: FOLIO Module/JIRA project-Team-PO-Dev Lead responsibility - FOLIO Module/JIRA project-Team-PO-Dev Lead responsibility matrix
00:38:07 Thomas Trutt: — when it comes to UXPRODs the more detail you can add the best.. Mockups, error handling, walking through different use cases..
00:38:28 Charlotte Whitt: Jira status - JIRA status
00:38:36 Thomas Trutt: Reacted to "Jira status - https:..." with ❤️
00:41:18 Thomas Trutt: Obsidian has a similar feature.. LOVE it..
00:41:48 Thomas Trutt: I wonder if this could be leveraged for sig reports
00:45:16 Thomas Trutt: What about a summary page for each sig using this idea? It could almost act as an index to the recordings.
00:46:40 Charlotte Whitt: Reacted to "What about a summary..." with 👍
00:48:00 Thomas Trutt: — thank you — having a standardized landing page for all sigs, same info in the same layout.
00:53:22 Alexis Manheim: We were going to talk about the product vision at WOLFCon, weren't we?
00:53:28 Jennifer Eustis: DRAFT Product Vision Development
00:54:53 Alexis Manheim: Here it is: FOLIO Vision and Framework
00:54:58 Jennifer Eustis: Reacted to "Here it is: https://..." with 🙏🏻
00:55:27 Lisa McColl: Side question: What time on Thursday Friday is our PC meeting at Wolfcon?
00:56:08 Thomas Trutt: Friday you mean?
00:56:23 Lisa McColl: Reacted to "Friday you mean?" with 👍
00:59:51 Thomas Trutt: Maybe a link to the updated lesion list?
01:00:07 Demian Katz: Must dash to another meeting. Thanks again, everyone!
01:00:30 Stewart, Caitlin: Thank you, Demian and Discovery SIG guests!
01:00:50 Charlotte Whitt: I have to run too. See you in two weeks.