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Attendees
Aaron Trehub, Alexis Manheim, Anya, Angela Zoss (Old), Axel Dörrer, Björn Muschall, Brooks Travis, Charlotte Whitt, Christopher Spalding, egerman, Felix Hemme, Gang Zhou, Hkaplanian, Ian Walls, Ingolf Kuss, James Fuller, Jana Freytag, Janet Baldwin, Jesse Koennecke, Karen Newbery, Kirstin Kemner-Heek, Kristin Martin, Laura E Daniels, Martina Schildt, Martina Tumulla, Maura Byrne, Owen Stephens, Paul Moeller, Peter Murray, Raegan Wiechert, Sharon Wiles-Young, Stephanie Buck, twliu, Tod Olson
Goals
Discussion items
Time | Item | Who | Notes |
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5 min | Announcements | TC approved the mod-inventory-update module this week. Universidad Adolfo Ibanez to go live in Jan. Jorge Tadeo Lozano University to adopt the FOLIO LSP in April. A global banking school to go live on circulation this month and then full implementation next year. Spokane Public Library will go live this month. | |
5 min | Privacy SIG Charter | Peter | Product council approves and endorses the new Privacy SIG Charter |
10 min | Data Sync Working Group update | Brooks | The proposal is nearing completion, including documenting the issues that have been found and how developers should work with them. It doesn't cover all of the use cases in the community (e.g., some circulation and SIP2 work...data dependencies across apps, blocking of deletion such as when an agreement points to a deleted purchase order line) but does cover when copies of data need to be updated across apps. An initial draft has been done and is now being rewritten based on the comments and discussions of the group. Cross App Data Syncronization Use Cases - Google Sheets. |
70 min | SIG Convener updates | All | See below |
SIG Convener Updates
App Interaction (Martina Schildt)
- Demos of newest functionality per app
- Continuation of dashboard - review of collected use cases across FOLIO
- eUsage visualization - usage statistics are visualized in Agreements record (separate accordion)
- Planned for Dec 15th: Inventory
- Goals: check for dependencies and data sync needs; be aware of functionality in other apps - possible reuse
Acquisitions (Martina Schildt)
- Demo on requirements and best practice for subscription handling using prediction patterns
- EDIFACT invoices
- successfully tested importing large edifact files in both Juniper and Kiwi
- Juniper Hotfix4 should be fine with invoicing
- Field mapping syntax for EDIFACT files
- Display a history of edits for the order record
- mock-ups for order change log
- Discussing requirements
- Requirements related to show/hide fields functionality
- usable via PO templates
ERM (Martina Tumulla & Martina Schildt)
The ERM SIG discussed Open Access properties of Agreements and talked about various implementers’ topics and actions taken or planned.
Open Access (Björn Muschall)
- OA properties in Agreements
- Linking OA requests and Agreements, and data display in OA request
- Pick lists and common values
- Request mockup and workflow discussions
- PC discussion on including OA in Flower release (PC approval)
- 1:1 conversation with a German project initiative with regard to OA cost monitoring (ongoing)
User Management (Maura Byrne)
- We made a new feature request for removing all of a user’s permissions with the click of a button. https://issuesfolio-org.folioatlassian.orgnet/browse/UXPROD-3422
- We wrote up a feature request for display of preferred name, should one exist in the user record. https://issuesfolio-org.folioatlassian.orgnet/browse/UXPROD-3067
- We discovered an unintended outcome of the calculation of patron expiration date by changing the user’s Patron Group. A new story was added to the ticket.
https://issuesfolio-org.folioatlassian.orgnet/browse/UXPROD-2389 - We discussed possible approaches to getting an accurate count of users in the Patron Group Settings page. https://issuesfolio-org.folioatlassian.orgnet/browse/UXPROD-3397
Resource Access (Jana Freytag)
- fee/fines:
- How are fee/fines implemented? - A walk through Overdue fines, Lost item fees, and Patron notice policies
- fee/fine permissions: https://issuesfolio-org.folioatlassian.orgnet/browse/UIU-2472 and https://issuesfolio-org.folioatlassian.orgnet/browse/UICIRC-693
- Reporting cross meeting:
- LDP vs. metaDB
- now once a month
- CDL Meeting with Ian Ibbotson
- formed a subgroup to support CDL requirements
- RA POs
Reporting (Angela Zoss) - conflict at 10am Eastern, sorry!
- SIG meetings continuing to cover some professional development topics like navigating LDP and Metadb, querying non-Roman scripts, intro to SQL, etc.
- Have had some discussions amongst query development teams about how to organize work moving forward; will likely be focusing on developing our derived tables and documenting data model and database semantics for people trying to get up to speed on LDP
- Have had some discussions about changes to FOLIO app data models that have an impact on reporting. We have seen situations where these changes don’t seem to be made with SME input and are not announced, which can cause breaking changes in reports. In many situations, reporting would prefer advanced warning of proposed changes to give a chance to weigh in or at least to be able to plan updates to reports that rely on these data elements. Discussions are happening in MM right now because of recent changes to SRS. This has also been mentioned to TC and Khalilah offered to think more about it, but we know that this issue affects reporting, API usage, app interactions, etc., so we would love to see more discussion about this amongst the governance groups.
- Ongoing reminders for all FOLIO Participating Institutions
- Reporting SIG is always recruiting new subject matter experts and report developers. Please contact Angela if you have staff who would be a good fit for reporting.
Metadata Management (Laura Daniels, Felix Hemme, Raegan Wiechert)
- MM has had a couple different demos of Instance record deletion: one from MTSU (Middle Tennessee State University) using APIs and one from GBV using the Inventory update module (mod-inventory-update). Dependencies, especially those between Inventory and other apps, are a primary concern around deleting Instance records.
- MM has reviewed ongoing quickMARC development of functionality for creating/editing/deleting MARC holdings (MFHD) records and working with MARC authority records
- MM still would like a PC liaison
- *Last week we discussed changes to property names in SRS (see https://issuesfolio-org.folioatlassian.orgnet/browse/MODDATAIMP-504) and the impacts of changes like this on, for example, reporting. Discussion focused on need for better communication and better timing of communication about changes like this. Is this an issue for PC? TC? Both? See also the Reporting update above!
Consortia (Noah Brubaker)
- A first round of input has been completed for needs related to a consortia admin tool and functions for a consortia admin user role. The SIG is now mapping the functions to other related SIGs to determine requirements that can be met alongside other development and clarify pieces that would need to be addressed directly through the consortia SIG
- A liaison list is being created to assist in initiating conversations between the consortia and other SIGs. The group agreed that give the scope of consortia needs and current capacity, seeking to work with other SIGs to provide a consortia perspective on future functionality planning and linking efforts with other SIGs will be the best way move needs into development or to provide timely input when other SIGs may be considering functionality that also has a consortia relation.
- We are beginning to arrange calls with guest speakers from other SIGs to join the group for discussion / sharing in another step toward further collaboration.
Accessibility (Beth German)
- SIG is looking for a new convener. Beth will be stepping down at the end of the year. Meetings will go into hiatus until a convener volunteers.
- Accessibility issues can still be addressed and discussed via the #accessibility channel.
- Ongoing accessibility work requires more capacity for writing test cases and reviewing accessibility but the SIG does not have this capacity at the moment.
- Accessibility dashboard
SysOps (Ingolf Kuss)
- Anton Emelianov is attending the Support SIG, thank you Anton!
- Anton participates in the Acceptance Criteria for Code Contributions working group, thank you again, Anton!
- Working on Epic(s) and User Stories for the SysOps Operational Needs. Here is our super-ticket: ROAD-80
- 1 planned session on WolfCon + 2 sessions with Technical Council
Implementers (Paula Sullenger)
- Infrequent meetings due to lack of agenda items
- No December meetings
- Looking for a new convener
- Known needs:
- Documentation
- Updated demos
Support (Anya Arnold and Debra Howell)
Reminder
- P4s after two releases are moved up to P3s.
- P3s after two releases are moved up to P2s.
- P2s after two releases are moved up to P1s.
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Please add a "support" label to bugs that are logged https://issuesfolio-org.folioatlassian.orgnet/secure/Dashboard.jspa?selectPageId=11117
New chart on the support dashboard:
Privacy (Carsten Schwill and Adam Chandler)
The Privacy SIG finalized its charter and is presenting it to PC and TC. It also continues to work on a recommended policy for handling personally identifiable information in log files.
Public Library (Adam Murray)
Meeting chat
09:35:14 From Peter Murray to Everyone:
https://librarytechnology.org/pr/26867
09:35:39 From Charlotte Whitt to Everyone:
Spokane Public Library will go live this month
09:36:02 From Sharon Wiles-Young to Everyone:
Thanks Charlotte for the update
09:37:36 From Anya to Everyone:
Universidad Adolfo Ibanez to go live in Jan
09:38:06 From Anya to Everyone:
Ah Peter - this is the one you are talking about - Universidad Jorge Tadeo Lozano
09:38:18 From Anya to Everyone:
Set to go live in April
09:38:43 From Tod Olson to Everyone:
Excellent!
09:41:12 From Harry Kaplanian to Everyone:
IS there anyone that thinks we should not?
09:41:12 From Anya to Everyone:
Yep
09:50:07 From Tod Olson to Everyone:
That sounds like an argument for soft deletes.
09:51:20 From Charlotte Whitt to Everyone:
Cross App Data Syncronization Use Cases - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ELIARpKxt-uIp-66eA42yxJQynCyiTiE4cbX98JqgjI/edit#gid=0
09:59:25 From Maura Byrne to Everyone:
BRB
09:59:50 From Angela Zoss to Everyone:
Sorry I could only come for a short time today - happy to follow up on my update via Slack or email!
10:06:53 From Anya to Everyone:
Woot Ian
10:12:40 From Owen Stephens to Everyone:
Apologies I can’t speak right now I think the PC should consider how we can best ensure that Folio is accessible as possible and continues to be so
10:14:10 From Laura Daniels to Everyone:
Ideally I would envision at least one member of each SIG be designated to keep track of and raise accessibility issues.
10:14:56 From Jana Freytag to Everyone:
+1 Laura and the same would be great for Privacy and Documentation needs
10:15:39 From Maura Byrne to Everyone:
+1 Jana
10:16:12 From Owen Stephens to Everyone:
Eg the TC review of modules includes the requirement of a statement about personal data with the module code
10:16:43 From Jana Freytag to Everyone:
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10:17:39 From German, Elizabeth to Everyone:
accessibility dashboard: https://issuesfolio-org.folioatlassian.orgnet/secure/Dashboard.jspa?selectPageId=11804
10:19:51 From Tod Olson to Everyone:
See also : https://issuesfolio-org.folioatlassian.orgnet/browse/UXPROD-216
10:20:50 From Aaron Trehub to Everyone:
Have to leave for another meeting,
10:21:52 From Kristin Martin to Everyone:
❤️Thank you for all of your work, Laura!
10:22:39 From Charlotte Whitt to Everyone:
Yes, big thank you Laura ❤️
10:25:49 From Martina Schildt to Everyone:
Thanks so much Laura �
10:38:08 From Jana Freytag to Everyone:
https://wikifolio-org.folioatlassian.orgnet/wiki/display/PO/Directory+of+Product+Owners+by+Area+of+Focus
10:39:01 From German, Elizabeth to Everyone:
https://wikifolio-org.folioatlassian.orgnet/wiki/display/TC/Technical+Skills+in+Demand
10:39:40 From Björn Muschall to Everyone:
?? https://wikifolio-org.folioatlassian.orgnet/wiki/display/TC/Technical+Skills+in+Demand
10:40:03 From Owen Stephens to Everyone:
Can we do more to promote this as opportunities to implementing sites?
10:41:52 From Jana Freytag to Everyone:
Thank you
10:44:22 From Laura Daniels to Everyone:
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10:44:31 From Karen Newbery to Everyone:
I thought it was one of my cats!
10:49:55 From Björn Muschall to Everyone:
+1 Owen
10:51:42 From Owen Stephens to Everyone:
+1 Björn
10:52:20 From Laura Daniels to Everyone:
I need to log out a few minutes early. ��
10:52:32 From Jana Freytag to Everyone:
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10:54:31 From Kristin Martin to Everyone:
https://wikifolio-org.folioatlassian.orgnet/wiki/display/PC/Future+Product+Council+Meeting+Topics
10:54:31 From Owen Stephens to Everyone:
Almost Xmas �
10:55:07 From Charlotte Whitt to Everyone:
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10:56:08 From Owen Stephens to Everyone:
I’ll definitely be closing down over Xmas
10:56:56 From Ingolf Kuss to Everyone:
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