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1 min | Scribe | All | Jakub Skoczen is next, followed by Marc Johnson Julian Ladisch took notes Reminder: Please copy/paste the Zoom chat into the notes. If you miss it, this is saved along with the meeting recording, but having it here has benefits. |
30 min | Eureka RFCs | All |
Meeting runs out of time. All following topics are moved to next Wednesday. |
20 min | RFCs in the wiki | All |
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Time Permitting | Additional RFC process feedback | Tod Olson | From Tod in slack:
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NA | Zoom Chat | 17:21:23 Marc Johnson: Indeed, they aren’t independent decisions 17:29:22 Craig McNally: I think those sorts of questions will inevitably be raised during the RFC Process (or whatever process we come up with) 17:29:43 Marc Johnson: Reacted to "I think those sorts …" with 👍 17:29:52 Craig McNally: Also keep in mind that we want/need to get public/broad feedback on these things, not just the TC's feedback 17:30:23 Marc Johnson: Replying to "I think those sorts …" They likely will. I’m maybe suggesting we more actively moderate some of this because of the broader context 17:30:32 Root, Jason M: Reacted to "I think those sorts ..." with 👍 17:35:34 Root, Jason M: Reacted to "Also keep in mind th..." with 👍 17:37:05 Marc Johnson: Replying to "Also keep in mind th…" Who do we want that from? 17:41:08 Craig McNally: Replying to "Also keep in mind th..." Developers, system operators, etc. Really its "the community" 17:44:07 Marc Johnson: Reacted to "Developers, system o…" with 👌 17:44:31 Marc Johnson: Replying to "Also keep in mind th…" Is that beyond what we try to usually get as part of the public review? 17:46:41 Craig McNally: Replying to "Also keep in mind th..." nope 17:47:23 Jenn Colt: Bad example 17:47:33 Craig McNally: Replying to "Also keep in mind th..." just reminding that the public review stage of the RFC process is not limited to TC feedback. 17:51:49 Marc Johnson: Sorry, I wasn’t intending to criticise the example being brought up 17:52:23 Marc Johnson: Replying to "Also keep in mind th…" Sure, historically we haven’t gotten much feedback through that process 17:56:54 Marc Johnson: The difference IMO is that previously accepting an RFC is the final decision on the matter 17:57:38 Marc Johnson: Which council represents system operators? 17:58:49 Marc Johnson: I meant in respect to the timeframes aspect that Jenn referred to about trying it out before advising 17:59:51 Jenn Colt: It seems like we could work with Jason & Ingolf when we get to public review. We’ve already attended discussions where sysops were discussing 17:59:59 Root, Jason M: Reacted to "It seems like we cou..." with 👍 18:00:23 Marc Johnson: Reacted to "It seems like we cou…" with 👍 18:00:39 Root, Jason M: I’ve always thought the TC represented system operators the most closely in all respects 🙂 18:01:00 Tod Olson: Reacted to "I’ve always thought ..." with 👍 18:01:01 Marc Johnson: Replying to "I’ve always thought …" We’ve never properly figured that out 18:01:16 Root, Jason M: It’s also been my view that sys operators will go and operate systems and try stuff out informally 18:01:23 Jenn Colt: Replying to "I’ve always thought ..." Yeah. It gets confusing because PC runs SIGs 18:02:04 Marc Johnson: Reacted to "Yeah. It gets confus…" with 👍 | |
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