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TimeItemWhoNotes
1 minScribeAll
Jason Root is next, followed by Jakub Skoczen

Reminder:  Please copy/paste the Zoom chat into the notes.  If you miss it, this is saved along with the meeting recording, but having it here has benefits.

5-10 minLiaison Updates
  • CC: Maccabee Levine
    • Patrick updated CC on his work.  Interest and several questions.
    • Mike updated the group on application formalization.
    • 1st RFC was approved
  • PC: Tod Olson
    • No meeting last week (holiday)
  • RMS Group: Jakub Skoczen 
    • No update, meeting canceled
  • Security Team: Craig McNally 
    • No meeting last week (holiday)
  • Tri-council Application Formalization: Jenn Colt  
    • No meeting last week
5 minRFC RetroAll

We had a productive retrospective last week, Several discussion topics were identified, which we need to allocate some time for...

Retro Board:

https://easyretro.io/publicboard/dY8fCRqguiSDP3wtvSLhNzlULdM2/1cf104bb-6aa4-4eb3-a878-0f9f1e235436

It's probably worth reviewing if you weren't present.

Using this Wed time slot to discuss.

1 minUpcoming MeetingsAll
  •  - Folio Chairs Meeting
  •  -  Dedicated Discussion : RFC retro topics
  •  - Regular TC Meeting
  •  - Dedicated Discussion - Topic TBD
5-10 minTCR Board ReviewAll
5 min

Technical Council Sub-Groups Updates

All

Static Code Analysis: Have not met the last 2 weeks - no news. Ingolf Kuss may revive in August, maybe by the 12th?

Dev Documentation: Jeremy we believe will want to continue to meet. Meeting with David C next week

1 minRFCs

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Reminder(s)

  • Go RFC still open - admin action required, only a PoC - nothing formal required other than closing the pull request.
  • Still Need Decision Log record for application formalization, Go, configuration RFCs
1 minDeveloper Advocate UpdatePatrick Pace (Unlicensed)

Waiting on permissions issue with Geo Management Services Board.

Proposed structure for developer documentation update forthcoming

1 minDecision LogAll

Need to log decisions for the following:  (see above)

  • Decentralized configuration - Florian is working on this, will come back around next week. Write-up in draft
  • Go programming language
  • Application formalization - Craig will update next week


Time Permitting

Officially Supported Technologies (OST)

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Check Recurring Calendar

Orchid has not been moved from Active to Archived
Jenn Colt will look at the table, it appears to be broken. No Q, or R Folio releases on the table.

5-10 minReference Data Upgrade

In the Sys Ops SIG meeting the topic of Reference Data Upgrades came up. The SIG thinks that the solution of this problem for mod-inventory-storage is not enough, but that this problem needs to be solved in a general way, for all modules.

There has been a long discussion 3-4 years ago about how FOLIO should handle reference data upon upgrades. See these links for background:



Notes:

Marc Johnson points out he remembers a difference set of formal processes for this from the previous subgroup

Jason R. asks if the issue is that you cannot specify per-module what type of data to load, or that no matter what is specified the upgrade process overrides it

Marc mentions that the proposal to correct this by Vince is a very involved and complex workflow. There has been no developer resources allocated to correct this issue and address the proposal

No easy solution to this problem because the original default data is lost to time and change

Will reach out to Julian Ladisch when he returns


5 minPR TemplatesMaccabee Levine

Maccabee Levine took an action item last week to follow up with dev community about PR templates.  Any update?

Circle back on this, discuss next steps with the developer who raised this in next Monday's meeting

NAZoom Chat


Here are the notes:


11:09:32 From Maccabee Levine to Everyone:
Jeremy rolling off TC doesn't necessarily mean he was dropping the subgroups. Worth asking.
11:10:48 From Ingolf Kuss to Everyone:
Ok. I will make sure to include him in the Group.
11:18:07 From Marc Johnson to Everyone:
IIRC Jakub is out for the whole of July
11:30:09 From Ingolf Kuss to Everyone:
https://folio-org.atlassian.net/wiki/x/wxdN
11:42:09 From Craig McNally to Everyone:
My recollection is that the proposal on the screen was approved by the TC (years ago), and stalled on finding someone to do a POC.
11:44:28 From Craig McNally to Everyone:
Eureka does not solve this problem.
11:45:07 From Marc Johnson to Everyone:
Reacted to "My recollection is t…" with 👍
11:45:08 From Ingolf Kuss to Everyone:
Let's find a solution which is agnostic to Eureka / Okapi or whatever
11:45:33 From Craig McNally to Everyone:
In Eureka, we don't have OKAPI's install endpoint (or OKAPI at all), but instead we have manager services which provide similar functionality (e.g. enable these applications for this tenant). That results in the module _tenant API calls, which is where reference and sample data is loaded.
11:45:38 From Marc Johnson to Everyone:
Reacted to "In Eureka, we don't …" with 👍
11:46:46 From Marc Johnson to Everyone:
What Jason describes is similar to what I recall EBSCO doing and what the proposal attempts to systematise
11:50:41 From Craig McNally to Everyone:
It would be helpful to have someone who's involved in that work join us and describe the approach they're taking in circuliation
11:50:54 From Ingolf Kuss to Everyone:
For mod-circulation-storage, there are currently two Jira issues which are being worked on, one for the Poppy release, the other one for the Quesnelia release: https://folio-org.atlassian.net/browse/CIRCSTORE-517
https://folio-org.atlassian.net/browse/CIRCSTORE-516
11:52:08 From Marc Johnson to Everyone:
Reacted to "It would be helpful …" with 👍


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