18:04:56 Von Jesse Lambertson : that is good to hear 18:04:58 Von Ann Kardos : Ian walls—formerly of UMass 18:05:08 Von Ann Kardos : you bet ;) 18:11:24 Von Felix (ZBW) : Using adjectives for checkboxes and verbs for buttons makes sense I think. 18:11:46 Von Ann-Marie Breaux : So what does that mean in this context, Felix? 18:12:49 Von Brooks Travis : Prepositions!!!! 18:12:55 Von Ann Kardos : I still don’t understand why anyone would suppress from staff 18:13:02 Von Ann Kardos : I don’t understand why we have this option still... 18:13:39 Von Felicia Piscitelli : "Suppressed from staff view" makes more sense 18:13:56 Von Ann-Marie Breaux : I know, Ann - I don't quite understand the use case about Suppressed from staff 18:14:07 Von Ann Kardos : i completely agree with jackie 18:14:08 Von Raegan Wiechert : We are using it for withdrawn items so they don't keep showing up. Also for items that need to be deleted but we can't yet. 18:14:42 Von Jesse Lambertson : yep 18:14:58 Von Jacquie Samples : Great, thanks!! 18:15:27 Von Ann-Marie Breaux : Right - and of course we can't delete instances yet at all. 18:17:44 Von Jennifer Eustis : I agree. It particularly useful to know just by scanning the results which library/campus the record belongs to in addition to suppressed 18:18:10 Von Ann-Marie Breaux : Isn't there a Jira to differentiate them better? 18:19:25 Von Lloyd (Marmot) : I think staff suppressed items should be gray, not red. 18:21:24 Von Christie Thomas : If there are Jiras, would it be possible to add those to the meeting minutes 18:22:11 Von Jessica Janecki : Thanks for bringing this up Christie. 18:22:35 Von Jesse Lambertson : +1 Yes, important 18:22:54 Von Christie Thomas : I am glad to hear that others think that this is important too. 18:23:25 Von Laura Wright (she/her) : https://issues.folio.org/browse/UXPROD-1634 18:23:52 Von Christie Thomas : Charlotte, I am so impressed at how easily you are able to locate all of these features!It is impressive. 18:23:53 Von Laura Wright (she/her) : https://issues.folio.org/browse/UXPROD-1730 18:24:00 Von Felix (ZBW) : They are in the notes, too. 18:24:12 Von Lisa Furubotten : Suppressed/Staff View 18:24:22 Von Jacquie Samples : I agree with Christie! Great job Charlotte! 18:24:25 Von Jennifer Eustis : Having better searching is important especially for single tenant multiple libraries scenarios 18:24:28 Von Lisa Furubotten : and Suppressed/Discovery 18:26:59 Von Jesse Lambertson : I am assuming the same users with permissions to see suppressed records would also be the only staff that would be able to actually make that suppression. As in, those who can't suppress, also can't see the option to suppress. Just clarifying to myself here...thanks 18:29:12 Von Christie Thomas : I apologize for the detour in the conversation. I had though there was consensus on the terminology already. 18:31:37 Von Ann Kardos : holdings statements 18:31:48 Von Jennifer Eustis : +1 to holdings statement notes 18:37:02 Von Jessica Janecki : Scenario #1 looks good. 18:37:14 Von Felicia Piscitelli : #1 18:38:10 Von Laura Wright (she/her) : MARC subfield names, for the record, are Public note and Nonpublic note 18:39:02 Von Laura Wright (she/her) : I also like scenario #1 18:39:32 Von Jennifer Eustis : I like scenario 1 18:40:01 Von Ann Kardos : scenario 1 seems to work better 18:40:11 Von Michelle Paquette (she/her) : #1 seems less likely to result in user error of forgetting to check a box and ending up with a staff note visible to the public 18:40:12 Von Jenn Colt : +1 18:40:13 Von Ann Kardos : I’m also not too wild about a checkbox 18:40:29 Von Laura Wright (she/her) : good point, Michelle 18:40:32 Von Ann Kardos : yes, same reason as Michelle above—I feel like people will forget to click checkboxes 18:41:10 Von Jesse Lambertson : concatenation is certainly possible at migration. In fact, I think that is common for migration at scale. but after that... 18:41:58 Von Brooks Travis : Could we set up an export profile that would split the notes into separate fields in the output? 18:42:24 Von Brooks Travis : Based on a concatenation separator? 18:42:48 Von Jennifer Eustis : we're going to do FOLIO holdings 18:43:04 Von Laura Wright (she/her) : I don't see why not, Brooks -- though to start with we might need to export the separator and then split them out post export? 18:43:14 Von Ann-Marie Breaux : The only libraries I'm aware of that will using MARC holdings (in SRS) are Duke, Alabama, and Texas A&M 18:44:07 Von Jesse Lambertson : @Brooks, would that not mean that some data point or string that outlines that concatenation have to be read again then in order to separate in export or other need? I like the challenge :) 18:44:52 Von Brooks Travis : Agreed 18:45:39 Von Brooks Travis : that agreed was to the breaking changes all at once point 18:45:59 Von Jennifer Eustis : yes 18:47:07 Von Jacquie Samples : Good point! most holdings statements don't have notes. 18:47:07 Von Brooks Travis : Could there not be an export rule that took the concatenated note and split it on the separator into separate repeatable fields in the output file? Why would that need to be done after export? (I’ll admit I don’t know enough about how data export works) 18:47:16 Von Ann-Marie Breaux : Here's an example of multiple public notes: =867 41$80$a2000$z, 2001$z, 2002$z, 2004$z, 18:47:47 Von Jessica Janecki : That looks very familiar Ann-Marie. 18:47:56 Von Ann-Marie Breaux : And here's one with public and staff: =867 41$80$a"Statutory deskbook"$z<1 computer laser optical disc, in pocket of v.1>$xThis is for CD-Rom only. 18:48:23 Von Ann-Marie Breaux : And here's one with multiple staff: =867 41$80$av.33: "Tenth -Twelfth Cumulative Table of Cases" (2008, 2010,2011)$xretain superseded vols. per TM, 12/12/12.$xv.33 on 3rd ed record 2013- jkm 11/19/2013 18:48:50 Von Lisa Furubotten : I'm thinking. Another way to display a public note in the 866 field would be to have the in the same field as the holdings statements, for example v.1-2 and then have only non public notes in the separate boxes. 18:51:44 Von Jesse Lambertson : This will surely affect special collections or rare materials things a bunch 18:51:52 Von Laura Wright (she/her) : I'd be concerned about export implications of adding notes to the holdings statements themselves 18:52:24 Von Ann Kardos : I am not comfortable with notes in the 866 field 18:52:31 Von Lisa Furubotten : You would be using the ',>' symbol as the delimiter, when you needed to do computer operations 18:52:38 Von Ann Kardos : umass holding records are already a terrible mess and we’re fixing them now 18:52:54 Von Ann Kardos : Sorry in the holdings statement itself 18:53:02 Von Ann Kardos : i’m fine with public notes! 18:53:08 Von Ann Kardos : And staff notes! 18:53:29 Von Jacquie Samples : I will be "here" next week, but out the following week. 18:54:58 Von Jesse Lambertson : I like statistics processes... :) 18:55:21 Von Laura Wright (she/her) : we will definitely discuss statistics processes at some point soon 18:56:19 Von Dracine Hodges : Thanks all. Off to another meeting. Be well. 18:57:05 Von Jesse Lambertson : nope, good to go 18:57:08 Von Ann Kardos : please save!