Fees/Fines
(UXPROD-792)
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| Status: | Draft |
| Project: | UX Product |
| Components: | Fees/Fines |
| Affects versions: | None |
| Fix versions: | None | Parent: | Fees/Fines |
| Type: | New Feature | Priority: | TBD |
| Reporter: | Holly Mistlebauer | Assignee: | Unassigned |
| Resolution: | Unresolved | Votes: | 0 |
| Labels: | PMP, Unassigned-from-Holly, feesfines, mandatory, po-mvp, resourceaccess | ||
| Remaining Estimate: | Not Specified | ||
| Time Spent: | Not Specified | ||
| Original estimate: | Not Specified | ||
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| Potential Workaround: | Holly: There isn't a workaround for this. Blocks need to be enforced in the API. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Epic Link: | Fees/Fines | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Front End Estimate: | Small < 3 days | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Front End Estimator: | Holly Mistlebauer | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Front-End Confidence factor: | Low | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Back End Estimate: | Medium < 5 days | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Back End Estimator: | Holly Mistlebauer | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Development Team: | Vega | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| PO Rank: | 84 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| PO Ranking Note: | Manual patron blocks are already in place, so the API needs to be updated ASAP to enforce them. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Rank: 5Colleges (Full Jul 2021): | R2 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Rank: GBV (MVP Sum 2020): | R3 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Rank: Grand Valley (Full Sum 2021): | R1 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Rank: Lehigh (MVP Summer 2020): | R1 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Rank: MO State (MVP June 2020): | R1 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Rank: U of AL (MVP Oct 2020): | R2 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Description |
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Current situation or problem: In scope Out of scope Use case(s) Proposed solution/stories Links to additional info Questions |
| Comments |
| Comment by Holly Mistlebauer [ 14/May/19 ] |
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EMAIL TRAIL BETWEEN ZAK AND HOLLY... ---- Holly, It sounds like we agree that attempting to create a loan with a blocked user should return an error. That story should be filed against mod-circulation. As to how ui-checkout works, it implements a workflow with three separate API calls: 1. get user info to check for blocks Checkout “fails” only because the workflow was interrupted, not because we attempted to create a loan and received an error. Looking at the ticket in question,
Zak > On May 13, 2019, at 3:21 PM, Holly L. Mistlebauer <hlm7@cornell.edu> wrote: |
| Comment by Cate Boerema (Inactive) [ 07/Aug/19 ] |
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Is this a duplicate of
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| Comment by Holly Mistlebauer [ 07/Aug/19 ] |
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Cate Boerema and Magda Zacharska: Good catch! If Magda is going to work on this, I will close
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| Comment by Magda Zacharska [ 08/Aug/19 ] |
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| Comment by Cate Boerema (Inactive) [ 08/Aug/19 ] |
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Thanks Magda Zacharska. If this isn't needed for self-checkout for MVP, it seems like the work Zak Burke described in the email exchange above is tech debt that won't have immediate user impact. Am I understanding that correctly? If so, I am thinking this is not needed for MVP. Thoughts Holly Mistlebauer, Zak Burke, Magda Zacharska? |
| Comment by Holly Mistlebauer [ 08/Aug/19 ] |
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Zak Burke, Cate Boerema, Magda Zacharska: I understand now why the two issues are not duplicates. Is anyone going to use the Borrowing API for anything else between now and summer 2020? If not, then it sounds like we don't need
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| Comment by Magda Zacharska [ 08/Aug/19 ] |
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From SIP2 point of view this is not MVP but as Zak Burke mentioned it in his comment it would make sense to prevent blocked patron from checking out until the blocking issue is resolved. The enforcement would happen during the check out so it would be a part of Circulation API and should happen on each check out unless we don't care if blocked patron continues to check items out. |
| Comment by Holly Mistlebauer [ 09/Aug/19 ] |
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Zak Burke: Do you mind clarifying what you think should be done for the MVP? Thanks! |
| Comment by Holly Mistlebauer [ 09/Aug/19 ] |
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Cate Boerema, Magda Zacharska, Zak Burke: After speaking with Zak about this I decided to add this feature back into the MVP. Here are my reasons: |
| Comment by Cate Boerema (Inactive) [ 19/Aug/19 ] |
Hi Holly Mistlebauer. This seems totally logical, but I am curious, then, why institutions are not ranking
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| Comment by Magda Zacharska [ 19/Aug/19 ] |
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Cate Boerema Not that many ILS-es support blocking patrons from self-checkout kiosk. It seems only Voyager and Evergreen from those that I investigated. So from self-checkout point of view, blocking a patron might not be the most commonly used functionality. |
| Comment by Cate Boerema (Inactive) [ 19/Aug/19 ] |
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Given Magda Zacharska's comment above, Holly Mistlebauer do you still think this is mvp? |
| Comment by Holly Mistlebauer [ 19/Aug/19 ] |
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Cate Boerema and Magda Zacharska: Only half the institutions have ranked the featured at all. This will be a show stopper for any institution that does self-checkout that enforces patron blocks now. But, if Cate is saying that only Voyager and Evergreen actually block patrons at self-checkout then we only need to ask those institutions that haven't ranked the feature who use Voyager or Evergreen to see if they do self-checkout. I know Cornell and TAMU use Voyager. Not sure about Evergreen. |
| Comment by Magda Zacharska [ 19/Aug/19 ] |
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Holly Mistlebauer There might be other ILS that allow to block patron from self-checkout but I just didn't find it. Also
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| Comment by Erin Nettifee [ 16/Sep/19 ] |
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Do we know for sure that the current SIP2 implementation blocks patrons who have a request or renewal block on their account? EG, that's been tested or we know it's in place somewhere like at Chalmers? |
| Comment by Magda Zacharska [ 16/Sep/19 ] |
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Erin Nettifee - SIP2 was tested multiple times in Chalmers and the behavior is as expected: a blocked patron is prevented from check-out at the self-checkout station. Here is the link to the TestRail with the passing test case: https://foliotest.testrail.io/index.php?/tests/view/2792&group_by=cases:section_id&group_order=asc&group_id=360 |
| Comment by Erin Nettifee [ 16/Sep/19 ] |
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Thank you Magda Zacharska! |
| Comment by Holly Mistlebauer [ 17/Sep/19 ] |
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Erin Nettifee and Magda Zacharska: Thanks! |
| Comment by Magda Zacharska [ 27/Sep/19 ] |
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This impacts requests placed from EDS: blocked patron can place requests from EDS:
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| Comment by Stephanie Buck [ 09/Jan/23 ] |
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Holly Mistlebauer, Erin Nettifee, Magda Zacharska - this is a pretty old feature. Is it still needed? There is no description and no story attached. |
| Comment by Holly Mistlebauer [ 12/Jan/23 ] |
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Stephanie Buck: I believe it is still needed. Someone contacted me recently about this. |